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117250.8 in reply to 117250.6
Date: 10/29/2009 11:38:47 AM
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I just answered what I prefer at a LI tactic on each position. And therefore JS is very important for PG, SG, SF. ;)

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Date: 10/29/2009 1:30:50 PM
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I didn't say JS is not important -- I just said playing LI doesn't necessarily make it more important than usual.


mmh i will agree agree acajou in this case, the JS is the main offensiv weapon in this tactic for those positions and they are still scoring a lot. For outside tactics you need JS and Range to give your players a good scoring package.

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Thank you for information. Could you please tell me critical skills for each position to strategy RnG too, please? I just have long range shooters and I am doing well but I want to try 2-point strategies also. Thank you again.

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Date: 10/29/2009 7:27:19 PM
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Driving helps you get good inside shots, I think this is pretty much self-explanatory.



If you read the rules verbatim, driving could help any type of shot:

Allows the player to create his own shot without a good pass from a team-mate. Better driving creates shots more often and creates better shots on average.


My preliminary thought is that driving helps a lot under the new engine, especially in a look inside, since it is harder to get good passes into your inside players.

I have also added to that the need for players to have jump shot in a look inside. My analysis so far seems to show that under the new engine, (with all things being equal) about 40% of your shots are short jumpers with another 40% being inside shots. The remaining 10% are long jumpers or 3 point shots (where higher range would be more important).

This is just a preliminary analysis, though and needs more investigation. That's why I wanted to know if Acajou had some evidence for his theory. It is also one of the reasons why I think that a 3-2 zone is currently working better against a look inside offense.

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Moreover (and this is again a personal observation based on watching games), different positions get their opportunities at different spots on the field -- so PGs, SGs, and SFs will get more of their inside shot through driving, since they start away from the basket. Likewise, PFs and Cs have little use for Driving, since they get their opportunities mostly by being directly under the basket.


Not sure I necessarily agree with that... I have seen my inside players with good driving take quite a few "drives to the basket". And if they can't get a good pass, what exactly are they going to do? They're either going to pass it off or drive.


Again -- these are just my personal observations. I haven't found any conclusive evidence that Driving helps with any sort of Jump Shots.


I haven't, either. It is just that you implied to me that it is "self-explanatory" that driving is only used for inside shots.


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Date: 10/30/2009 10:38:07 AM
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Could you please tell me critical skills for each position to strategy RnG too, please?

I'd choose a PG with high passing skill and of course a lot of Jump Shot, Range and of course some driving, too. Shooting guard and small forward is the same, but they don't need that much passing.
Power forward and center should have a nice rebounding skills, to get the missed shots. And at least its positive if your power forward can shoot the ball a little, too.

By the way: my recommendation is only for the offensive end.

I just have long range shooters and I am doing well but I want to try 2-point strategies also. Thank you again.

Run & Gun is an outside focused offense. Therefore you need your long range shooters.

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Date: 10/30/2009 1:53:20 PM
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(1) shoot, (2) drive + shoot, or (3) pass.

Again, I think that if a player gets an opportunity sufficiently close to the basket, then (2) is not an option. But that's just me.


I think that if he's not open then (1) is not an option... Unless your player is inexperienced and likes to take a lot of shots that he can't make, or if the shot clock is almost finished.

I still wonder if the driving skill can be used on any type of shot. For example - the text "player x backs off slightly" - just before an offensive player takes a jump shot. My personal interpretation of this is: the offensive player makes a nice drive to the inside, forcing the defender to back off. Then the offensive player pulls up and takes a jump shot.

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Date: 11/7/2009 2:34:58 AM
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Driving helps you get good inside shots, I think this is pretty much self-explanatory



IF this game is realistic, then Driving would not just be for getting good inside shots.
For a PG it would also mean the ability to drive towards the basket, in the lane usually,
getting the defense to collapse or double on you, and then kicking it out to a teammate
for a good outside shot. For that matter, it could apply that way to any position, but it
is traditionally a PG thing ala Nash, Paul, etc.

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