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From: DireWolf

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Date: 12/5/2009 2:21:00 AM
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You'd be surprised how much of a difference good game shape can make actually. I dont really have any problems with game shape at the moment but it is an option i could go with for the finals to get a little extra edge or could be an option to fix any potential problems i could have if my starters play heavy minutes in the Semi and first game of the Finals (if i get past the Semi tonight) so just want to cover all my bases hence the original question.

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Date: 12/5/2009 3:21:23 AM
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Thats what i wanted to tell papags just couldn't find the right words lol. Its all about how u deliver the answer . If your sure about an answer u can just say such and such works like this. But if your not confident your correct make it reflect in your answer. I agree it is good to see someone so enthusiastic on the forums.

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120916.10 in reply to 120916.1
Date: 12/5/2009 10:47:44 AM
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i would say, that GS training should be more powerful then bad minutes. I don't have much experience with it, ok i have none experience with it. But the cup final last season in germany, both teams trains gameshape before the match and there was only one player without 9er game shape in both roosters.(he had strong)

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Date: 12/5/2009 1:22:37 PM
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I think minutes are still deciding factor and game shape helps a bit (and when such a training is used, the manager probably seeks every bit of an advantage he can get, so it can be still good for him). I guess it is a huge help to get players to respectable from below and smaller help - only sublevels roughly when you are aiming for proficient. From the info I gathered, which is of course still a small margin.

From: GC 30

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Date: 12/5/2009 3:59:47 PM
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in LN a team kept aa roster os 5 players and he only trained GS,and as I could see he kept his players with a good GS

he only played the 2 league games per week

so I think GS training boosts a bit the shape when your minutes are 80 or more

From: DireWolf

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Date: 12/6/2009 4:33:08 AM
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by "good GS", what sort of levels do you mean? Respectable? Strong?

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120916.14 in reply to 120916.13
Date: 12/6/2009 7:12:38 AM
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well, consider respectable to be the default -- it is at the beginning of the season.. that is sort of a minimum; you could substitute "Minimally acceptable". I consider strong for all my players (one reason I keep a small squad) to be my goal / standard of success. Proficient I understand is the cap. I have found keeping my best players in proficient/strong shape a real challenge, because if they play 40+ minutes twice a week that is crossing into a danger zone.

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120916.15 in reply to 120916.14
Date: 12/6/2009 8:11:49 AM
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Oh i understand what is generally considered "good gameshape" for most people but i just wanted to get clarification on GC30's specific response.

and yes, proficient is the maximum for game shape.

From: GC 30

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Date: 12/6/2009 9:56:51 AM
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If I remember correctly he kept his GS on strong and sometimes proficient but I did not follow all his weeks,so I think the training compensates the lost os shape from the 80 or more minutes and gives an up though it maybe little

but one thing is to train one week other is to train the entire season,but for decisive matches I think its valid

I would want confirmation by people that trained one week only,but the problem is the random factor so its always a tough decision

good luck either way,hope i helped,sorry about my english

From: DireWolf

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Date: 12/6/2009 1:56:59 PM
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Your english is fine.

Thanks for the replies everyone, given me enough info to think about for now i think :)

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120916.18 in reply to 120916.2
Date: 12/7/2009 3:56:50 AM
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well it depends on the player, and how good/old they are. If you have a young kid who trains well he may experience a pop and a bit, but if you have an old player that doesnt train well he may just go down.


Can I challenge this quote or at least ask how on earth you arrived at this conclusion?!

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