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From: cws33

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Date: 1/24/2010 10:31:56 AM
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I have trained PF/C before your handling and driving are pretty low so dont bother training them, just stick to JS, IS, Reb and ID

Cws
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Date: 1/24/2010 1:05:30 PM
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if you really want a Pf,give him 2 or 3 levels of OD,it would be good to have a level 9 at passing but 7 is good in my opinion,after this you train JS till 10 or 11 and see if his HN and DR popped till level 4 if they dont give him some HN or DR training

and then train his inside skills

you should remember that his height is good to train the secondaries but he wont pop fast like some other guys both in his inside and his outside training

I think he can become a really good player for your team but he wont make a world class PF,

From: Lux4

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Date: 1/24/2010 2:03:50 PM
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It seems that you know what you are talking about, so I will take your advise about training my PF... I Am planning to train my PF in inside and outside skills. I have a coach level 6...
I still have few question, though...

1. Is OD very important for PF?
2. I have seen a lot of PFs with high HN... Is it even worth to improve my HN, because it's so low? Or should I rather improve other outside skills instead?
3. What height does PF have to be, to become a world class player? And do you really think that the height affects his training that much?

Thanks for your time,
Luka...

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Date: 1/24/2010 9:12:20 PM
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2.03 cm is not that tall,i have a 2.08 PF with 10 in OD but he plays as a SF

and if I'm not wrong there are some very good SF tall enough to be PF with high OD




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Date: 1/24/2010 9:32:14 PM
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actually I dont think the OD in your case is necessary because a pop will take 3 or 4 weeks,but the "ideal" PF in most people opinion need to have at least 6 in OD,thats why I said the" if you really want"

about the HN I dont think you should do the HN training but instead the DR and JS ( look at the training speed analysis topic to see what secondaries each training has)

I think that you can make a good ofensive PF and if you have a C with better OD you can trade they're defensive positions

and a world class for me is a NT player,because of your players height I think some other players born with the same inside skilsl with better secondaries and taller will have advantage in training,but he can be a star in a lot of Div.1 teams (like mine for example) if well trained


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Date: 1/25/2010 12:40:14 AM
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2.03 cm is not that tall,i have a 2.08 PF with 10 in OD but he plays as a SF

and if I'm not wrong there are some very good SF tall enough to be PF with high OD

I didn't say it's not possible to train his OD. I said it's probably a waste of time, all things considered.

There's probably a reason why there isn't anyone on the transfer market with at least 8 in OD and 12+ in inside skills.


Firstly you tell the original poster exactly what he asked not to hear then you followed it up with a statement essentially telling everyone not to bother training guys over 6'8 in OD (or they'd be stupid too)

As for the above (in bold) - I would hazard a guess that if you've gone to the trouble to train such a player why on earth would you want to sell him?

But if there isnt such a player (cos its a waste of time to train) why are there guards with 12+ in outside skills and 8+ in Inside defence? Surely the ID training is a complete waste?

It is because of posts like yours that the transfer list does not evolve from the mono-skilled big men with no handling (oh but in your world they have JS which is nice).

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Date: 1/25/2010 10:31:33 AM
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I didn't say it's not possible to train his OD. I said it's probably a waste of time, all things considered.

There's probably a reason why there isn't anyone on the transfer market with at least 8 in OD and 12+ in inside skills.


In the future I am not going to bother buying a PF with OD below respectable, so that tells you exactly what I think of such a player. I am actually thinking of switching to training PFs because people are like you and just don't bother to see the value of it.

Basically, if your PF has no outside d, you are relegating yourself to playing 3-2 zones in order to cover for his weakness. It is not just the outside shot that is worrysome here, but you are leaving yourself open to good passes and drives from your opponent's PF.

Quality PFs are already rare without comments like this. There are already enough C trainers in the world, we do not need more of them (a PF without OD, HD and PA might as well be a C in my opinion).


Last edited by HeadPaperPusher at 1/25/2010 10:32:10 AM

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