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Ofcourse they do, but it's not exatcly a sure thing that when you end up 6-th you will not relegate. That's my point.

I think the 5th place finishers should get a Tues scrimmage, with no gate receipts

First of all, I just finished in 5th. I am really happy to have survived the season, and that's thanks enough. But...

then along comes this really good idea and gets me thinking, ya' know, here's my team just sitting on their hands when they could be out scrimmaging and getting experience. Since they don't get a stamina-related boost for the extra rest, they may as well be playing. So I really totally like this idea of having that first Tuesday after the season dedicated for 5th place teams scrimmaging each other, with no gate receipt bonus, but training time. After the first week it can be business as usual. We all need to train free throws, sometime, eh?

If you are going to train Free Throws, then it should make no difference whether you play the scrimmage or not.

I don't think 5th place should get anything. They already get the gaurantee that they won't be relegated. I understand that you don't think it is fair that the 6th place gets a better draft pick, gets income from the relegation game, and if they don't get relegated end up ahead of you. But you didn't have to come fifth, if you would prefer to be 6th, then make sure you come 6th.

I also understand that if you are in the lowest division then 5th place is a bigger disadvantage because 6th place gets extra income, better draft pick and no chance of relegating, but everyone already knows that 5th place doesn't provide a benefit other than not relegating, so it is your responsibility to make sure that you don't finish 5th. This brings more tactics in to the game which is good.

Also, if you are in 5th place, simply train Free Throws or Stamina, there is no harm, you are going to train it sometimes anyway so why not now.

Ofcourse they do, but it's not exatcly a sure thing that when you end up 6-th you will not relegate. That's my point.

Ofcourse they do, but it's not exatcly a sure thing that when you end up 6-th you will not relegate. That's my point.

in most cases it is, because no team get relegated

Then its their own fault for coming 5th. Teams know before hand that coming 5th yields nothing, so if there is no chance of relegating, don't come 5th!

i missed get 6th one time my own, because i try to hard to get into the playoff and notice that an opponent already thorws his game away and the 7 th was to ar away to give him the "asshole" card(at least he would be happy about it). why such scenarios ain't possible in lower leagues, and the next question, is it really desirable to get loosing computions because beeing succesful sucks?

And even the difference betwenn fourth and 6th is often, is questionable because you normally get just one game with 1/3 income and even if you beat the often superior team away y still getting less money then the tea out of relegation.

PS: you posted it twice, maybe you could delete the first one ;)

PPS: Those teams who throw games away, screw also the rest of the competion in this league.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 3/10/2010 3:27:46 PM

Sorry I didn't mean to post it twice.

I think it brings a tactical side to being a manager. Does the team try and place 6th or 7th and simply get a good draft pick and play well enough to avoid relegation, or do you try and make top 4 and make the playoffs and have a chance at being league champion and promote, I think that as a manager you need to decide which one to do. If you try to make the playoffs and fail and come 5th then you shouldn't get anything for failing to make playoffs. If you try to come 6th or 7th and fail to do that then you come 5th as well. So the only way to come 5th is either to intentionally come 5th, in which case you shouldn't mind coming 5th, or you fail to do what you wanted and so you come 5th.

Teams throw games all the time, teams playing TIE against opponents they know they won't beat for example. Does this screw the rest of the competition in the league? Throwing games is part of the game and is a tactic that most teams use in some circumstances.

if i eman screwing games, i mean playing the third lineup with false positions against teams they easily beat - taking advantages of hopeless situtions in tieing isn't screwing up a games or competion because the outcome is the same.

PS: but they are also games screwed, who could be won but i think this shouldn't be the target of the game, if 5 teams in each division try to get the rigth amount of looses where the other 3 try to make the championship, and get sabotage from team who notice i neet a win because else i got 8th.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 3/10/2010 3:51:56 PM