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Hmm seems a bit confused with advice i been receiving. i got one side saying i should focus on ID IS and Reb, while another group suggest the jumpshot driving etc... what are the pros and cons of how i develop tis playa?

Okay there are 2 ways:

First way: Going with ID, IS and Rebounding
Pros: He will play well as a center but nothing else.
Cons: He can't play at PF well. His salary will skyrocket. He will be a monoskilled player that will be worth very little on the transfer market and will not be unique.

Second way: Doing what I said and training the guard skills.
Pros: He will be able to play at center or power forward. He will play much better because of great secondary skills. You would be able to sell him for 3 times the amount compared to if you just trained the inside skills. His salary will stay low so you get a great player with a cheap salary.
Cons: None.

But i heard from forums that it take forever to train team skills?

I didn't say anything about team skills...

Hi Phil Jackie Chan:

I can't say I am the best at putting together a team, but here are some thoughts for you to chew on. In the end, the decision to train or not to train, and how to train, is ultimately yours.

You also have a good problem - a good potential player with obvious strengths and flaws, and a decision on how to build around him. I wish I had your problem when I started out.

First, I would suggest that you try to bbmail Jelme, who is the manager for the U21 National Team. Based on the profiles of the current U21 players, he can give you advise on how to get your player to the levels needed to be an elite player.

Personally, if I had your player when I first started, I would train him a little bit on the inside skills and then sell him before he becomes 19.

why?

here are my reasons -

1) he has atrocious outside defense. As you promote, you may find this a problem. not so much in div 4 or 5, but when you get to div 3, there are lots of pivots and forwards with decent outside shooting skills that you will need to defend against.

2) it looks like your center fouls a lot. this could be combination of an aggressive nature, poor OD, and poor stamina - but as you promote and your competition gets better, it will be get harder to give him 48 minutes of training in 1 single game.

3) He has HOF potential so he will get attention from div 1-3 teams while he is young. You are in div 5, and probably don't have a level 5 or more trainer, so you will get more $$$ than the value from which you try to train him yourself.

4) He is rather short so he will train slower on the inside skills as he gets older.

5) shot-blocking is very expensive salary-wise. And lots of managers have different opinions on the value of shot-blocking, which will be reflected in his market value over time.

Either way, I would not train him too much before I try to sell him - why? because I don't think div 1-3 teams will buy him if his salary is too high and he gets too old. too low outside skills, stamina too low, too short etc. At that point, he may become too expensive for a div 3-4 team (less revenue and savings).

Personally, I think he is a good sell right now, or for even more money with just a little more training. Sell closer to playoffs if you want to maximize.

With the money you have, you can expand your arena and pick up some veterans (so many good deals right now) or other good 18-year olds to train (save your money and get just all-star potential until you can get a level 5 trainer, then go for the superstars and HOF).

The minus of it is I reckon your fan survey is going to plummet if you decide to sell. Most probably.

But in the end, it is your player, and your choice. Definitely get more advise from more experienced and better managers than myself, because you will want to make a decision that you do not regret (sell or not/how to train).

Good luck, welcome, and remember - it's a game, so have fun.

He is 6'8" which isn't ideal for training pure centres. It is a great height for training secondary skills on a big man, but his outside skills are very low to start off with. He has Hall-Of-Fame potential so could be sold for a lot of money on the market. I would consider selling him at the beginning of next season and find a trainee that is easier to develop.

Second way: Doing what I said and training the guard skills.
Pros: He will be able to play at center or power forward. He will play much better because of great secondary skills. You would be able to sell him for 3 times the amount compared to if you just trained the inside skills. His salary will stay low so you get a great player with a cheap salary.
Cons: None.

There is a huge con: His atrocious OD makes him a huge liability in man to man defense in the long run and won't be useful after a few promotions. Any advantage he has with higher outside skills will be mitigated by the advantage his opponents will have (prolific JS vs. Average OD is more or less the same as respectable JS vs. his atrocious OD).

I think there's a third option: train him to be a well rounded C with good guard skills.

I said there was no con in training guard skills. Not that he will have no weaknesses :P
His OD is going to be bad no matter what happens, unless someone is crazy enough to train it up but I don't recommend it.
And I'm not saying to keep him forever, I'm saying that if he trains him like I said and then sells him in about 1 season he could get about 2 million for him.

And if he follows the training I said it will result in a well rounded C with good guard skills anyway. But with the jump shot he would be able to play him at power forward in lower divisions, and will be able to sell him before he gets to higher divisions anyway.

This would be a fantastic player. He would be worth lots of money on the transfer list, and his salary will be low so you get a lot more out of him.

All rounded players dont seem to fetch as much on the TL as players with standout skills (I personally dont know why, but it is what it is). He would make much more selling this player if he trains in inside skills only...

For an example, my 2 trainees are 2 completely different players, but for now are being trained in the same way.

Age: 18
Height: 6'11" / 211 cm
Potential: perennial allstar

Jump Shot: respectable Jump Range: respectable
Outside Def.: respectable Handling: respectable
Driving: mediocre Passing: mediocre
Inside Shot: inept Inside Def.: mediocre
Rebounding: mediocre Shot Blocking: respectable
Stamina: pitiful ↑ Free Throw: proficient

Got this player cheap because his height is no good to train his guard skills, but as they stand, they will be very easy to make a very well rounded PF when his inside skills catch up... His transfer price estimate drops weekly, even though he has popped almost every week.

Age: 19
Height: 6'7" / 201 cm
Potential: superstar

Jump Shot: average Jump Range: respectable
Outside Def.: awful Handling: average
Driving: strong Passing: average
Inside Shot: strong Inside Def.: respectable
Rebounding: strong Shot Blocking: awful
Stamina: strong ↑ Free Throw: average

This player was a draft pick I ended up with that I was going to train for a season and sell, but have now decided to try and turn into an inside based SF.

What do you think the estimate transfer price would be for both these players?

I disagree, I think young well rounded players will fetch more.
I see a lot of 19 year olds on the market now with good inside skills and no secondary skills and they sell for less than 1 million. This was my 19 year old that I sold a few weeks ago:

Height: 6'10"
Potential: Perennial Allstar
Jump Shot: respectable Jump Range: pitiful
Outside Def.: atrocious Handling: proficient
Driving: average Passing: inept
Inside Shot: proficient Inside Def.: strong
Rebounding: proficient Shot Blocking: strong
Stamina: mediocre Free Throw: pitiful

He sold for 1.75 million dollars, and is probably worth more than that.


As for your players, I think your 18 year old is worth about 200k.
And your 19 year old is worth about 500k.