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Why do some noobs get to start with a division 4 team?

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From: Loid

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155164.8 in reply to 155164.7
Date: 8/27/2010 1:32:46 PM
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i mean leave it open and let the best teams from the next division that didnt win championship move up when season is over

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155164.11 in reply to 155164.10
Date: 9/13/2010 11:51:57 AM
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The teams wouldn't be more uneven than how they are right now with all the newbies in d.IV.

I think the reason for the current system is that if the bottom division is almost empty, you want to make sure that d.IV gets filled up before your start filling up d.V leagues.

This doesn't work so well with the USA because the d.V is medium-size, but if it was smaller you'd definitely see why it matters to have a system where you can enter in the next-to-last division.


Your examples are excellent reasons for scuppering the whole national league system and letting everyone start out at the bottom with the same resources available. National teams would, of course, still exist, as would national cup tournaments, but a newbie from Hong Kong would no longer start out with an economic advantage over a new player from the US.

There are lots of ways to reallocate old teams to new leagues and let everyone compete on a level playing field.

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155164.13 in reply to 155164.11
Date: 9/13/2010 12:43:27 PM
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hello everyone , I hope you don't mind that I am from Greece... I keep track on your forums too...

dear skipjacks , I saw on your other post also that you are talking about reality ... whole world playing in one Division Pyramid isn't even close to reality...

Also in my opinion , you shouldn't even compare your team to a team in HK or any small country... Its the other USA teams that you compete against.. in order to measure yourself against a team from Algeria for example you need to reach the highest place in your country and play in BBB.... and I am sure (as you can see from the past BBB tournaments) that teams from high populated countries are by far stronger than those small countries

finally in case you are talking about economic advantage on the global market of players... well that doesn't affect only you but also the whole other teams of the world... so you are still in the same situation with the teams you really compete against

also I will agree totally with GM-Coco...

and finally if you really want that kind of playing system... there is bballzone which is exactly what you are looking for... domestic and world league parallel

just my thoughts , once again I hope you don't mind I am from Greece and write on USA forums

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155164.14 in reply to 155164.13
Date: 9/20/2010 8:39:00 AM
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First, thanks for your post. All good points.

As far as BB goes, you start out much, much closer to making that tournament than anyone in the USA. That is my point. It would take me five seasons if I went on an unprecedented run to win the NBA in my fifth season of unrelenting success. No real chance of that. I do think, however, that I could win the national championship in a small country in five seasons and be in BBB. Perhaps I'd get smashed, perhaps I'd win a few. I don't know. I do know you have a much better chance of getting there sooner than I do.

All the world playing in one pyramid is MUCH closer to reality than the current BB system. Reality is the NBA on top and USA college ball (allegedly amateur status) second, with other World Leagues hoping to get third and fourth tier American players so they can dominate in their local systems. I'll allow the class of basketball played around the world is improving, but the USA just easily won the world title without even fielding its best players.

World-wide basketball is exclusively the province of National Teams.

Having everyone start out the bottom in multi-national leagues allows for equal opportunity and equal struggle.

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155164.15 in reply to 155164.14
Date: 9/20/2010 2:05:12 PM
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If Olympiakos wins a lot, they can't promote to NCAA or NBA. Not quite understanding your pyramid.

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155164.16 in reply to 155164.15
Date: 9/27/2010 9:17:55 AM
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If Olympiakos wins a lot, they can't promote to NCAA or NBA. Not quite understanding your pyramid.


That is my point. BB does not resemble reality at all. So why impose a soccer reality on basketball?


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155164.17 in reply to 155164.16
Date: 9/27/2010 2:01:25 PM
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It does resemble reality in the sense of their being different leagues around the world.

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155164.18 in reply to 155164.17
Date: 9/29/2010 9:20:42 AM
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True to that limited extent. What you are overlooking is that every player in all those leagues would play in the NBA (if not come to the US to go to college) if they could. That puts the NBA and US college ball at the top of the real world pyramid.

Olympics and other international competitions are the real national team competitions and I would not change the way BB handles that.