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New option to permanently retire or permanently inactivate veteran, low salary players...

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196274.8 in reply to 196274.3
Date: 9/12/2011 10:14:32 PM
Milwaukee Lethargy
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Are you talking about Sam Mills (6494388)? He will most definitely have under 5k salary next season and you could retire him. If it's Charlie Yoder (6626395) I understand your concern. But with his salary he should at least be a suitable backup player in the early cup rounds.

To come back to your suggestion - maybe one could implement an extra option to retire a player if he has played for - let's say two seasons/ 44 games (the same amount to be put into the HoF). Then one could be pretty sure that no one would use this option to harm NT rosters or anything ... you would have to pay 300k for over two seasons in order to retire that player permanently. But everyone else could just retire his beloved players and not have them play for another team or just burning money.


Well I wasn't really thinking of any specific player I have now. Thinking more about players I've already fired long ago. Or maybe players I'd like to keep sometime in the future.

Yes, Sam Mills is my last original player, but I don't mind paying the $5k really. He'd still be usable, just I need those minutes to train younger players. Charlie Yoder is really valuable (gets 11 game ratings when in good game shape). But again, I need minutes to train others. I had been using him in the cup before this season.

Yeah, that's a good # of games you suggest. Just like qualifying for the Hall-of-Fame. & since it would be only older, low salary players, there is no chance to harm NT rosters, or do anything else harmful either.

From: shikago

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Date: 9/12/2011 11:38:38 PM
Milwaukee Lethargy
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If Kobe wants to go play for the Kings or move to China and play there, nothign LA can do about it once his contract with them is done. NOthing. This is realistic. Pay his slaary, trade (transfer) or fire.

I have no idea where you think this system your are suggesting actually ahppens in the real world. It just plain doesnt happen.


Look -- in the past firing a player equaled the player "choosing" to retire. Just as you equate the transfer list with "trading". (LOL, Is every single NBA transaction "cash only"?) Regardless it's not like BuzzerBeater is hyper-realistic. Can you imagine a team signing a 27 year old Michael Jordan then flat out firing him after a week? only to have another team sign him for a few weeks, then firing him because they couldn't afford him, etc...? Also, take the flood of free agents last year in the NBA. (like Lebron James). Cleveland continued paying his contract, why was he allowed to leave? In BuzzerBeater a team "owns" him as long as they pay him each week.

Why don't your highest paid players have guaranteed contracts? Since they don't, why are you allowed to force them to stay in Japan as long as you wish against their will? Why can't an NBBA team or an even better league's team just take Mathias Budiarso (8195984) away from you at the end of the week? Or at least force you to double his salary to have him decide to stay with you?

Players decide if/when they want to retire and how much the play for etc. Hence the lockout.

Actually a lockout is where the owners hold the power & eventually end up dictating salaries, contracts terms, and so on. The players have very little leverage or power against a lockout in most cases.


I'm not sure the change would really have too big an impact, its just a poinless/weird/needless thing.

Ok, that's a fair opinion. & I completely respect that.
Personally I don't see how having a player remain with your team (or retire w/ your team) is any more pointless than having a Hall-of-Fame. And seeing as how retirement recently changed, I just made what would seem to be an easy to implement suggestion.

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196274.11 in reply to 196274.10
Date: 9/13/2011 12:28:38 AM
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I think it's pretty simple. If he is still usable, over the treshold and get's picked up, then why should he not play the game? If you want your team to be the last one to own him, then pay his salary until he is under the treshold and retire him. Players above the treshold are usually usable in early rounds of the cup + we have an option to put players in the hall of fame. List him there and let him go.

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196274.12 in reply to 196274.11
Date: 9/13/2011 12:48:05 AM
Milwaukee Lethargy
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haha, it seems that all the LA's are against me...

well I understand if people think it's weird or pointless. or have zero interest in it. but i honestly don't see why there were be actual opposition to it...? it harms no-one but the team voluntarily choosing it...

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Date: 9/13/2011 2:09:05 AM
Milwaukee Lethargy
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Appreciate the response!

Guess I meant "no harm" as in there's not much potential for cheating or abuse of it...
also really didn't think it would hurt those people you mention either. Seeing as how prior to season 17 those players wouldn't be on the TL anyway. (This wouldn't be taking high demand players off the market that have always been there...)

Also, how useful is a $7k 33 year old in awful game shape -- post all-star break ? Doubt teams would sign one half a season in advance. (I know, you'll probably say, "well then just fire them & let no one sign them"...)

Lastly you'd still be paying all his money eventually. It's save a little now, pay it back & more later. For example, in Season 40 you'll still be paying him! (& more $ than if his skills declined!) So the money part isn't unfair when you think about it long-term.

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196274.15 in reply to 196274.14
Date: 9/13/2011 3:16:17 AM
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but there are a lot of suggestion who wouldn't harm anybody, and didn't force you to choose it around here. but when they all get implemented the page is overloaded, and the BB waste times with options who have at least in my eyes very few value. Or in this case could be even confusing, when the option appear just on a minority of players

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196274.16 in reply to 196274.15
Date: 9/13/2011 3:40:01 AM
Milwaukee Lethargy
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ok, that's a really good point. you're right, didn't think of that.
+1 ball

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Date: 9/24/2011 12:07:46 AM
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But I think I won't mind if a player who retired early suddenly unretires himself. Just like "you know who"...

edit: maybe rare and random occurence...

Last edited by Ashurri at 9/24/2011 12:08:13 AM

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196274.18 in reply to 196274.17
Date: 10/5/2011 3:09:23 AM
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i saw a guy retire today

i was really considering bidding on him he seemed like a bargain as a cruddy backup minute filler if it wasnt 4 the passing i would have

Gerardo Franqueza (2799798)
Power Forward
Owner: Retired

Weekly salary: $ 11 209
Role: draws a paycheck
(BuzzerBeta)

DMI: 86900
Age: 32
Height: 7'1" / 216 cm
Potential: allstar *
Game Shape: strong
Jump Shot: prominent Jump Range: awful
Outside Def.: respectable Handling: strong
Driving: mediocre Passing: pitiful
Inside Shot: respectable Inside Def.: proficient
Rebounding: strong Shot Blocking: respectable
Stamina: inept Free Throw: awful

Experience: proficient

Place a bid on this player
Starting Price: $ 112 090


amazing that noone thought a guy like that was worth just 112k

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