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From: GM-WallyOop

To: kcp
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203095.8 in reply to 203095.7
Date: 11/22/2011 6:40:21 AM
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How did the topic title get changed by the way? It was "Is this cheating?"

Not entirely accurate. I believe it was "IS THIS CHEATING?", which I changed to lower case and to better reflect the topic being discussed. Cheating accusations are not ok and given the first post singling out a team I considered it best to not have any cheating stuff in the title. I could have mentioned in my post that I updated the title, sorry about that.

From: rwystyrk

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203095.9 in reply to 203095.7
Date: 11/22/2011 6:44:22 AM
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Definitelly it's not cheating as there is no written rule of "integrity" or any similar.
You can play that way if you like it. But if you like tanking way of play I would recommend you not to forfeit the games, but you can buy 3 players and train them. This way you are at once earning money and training young talents you can use as soon as you decide to use saved money.

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203095.10 in reply to 203095.9
Date: 11/22/2011 8:00:27 AM
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I believe it's wrong and disrespectful, like when NBA teams try to get better chances in the draft.

It's not cheating, that's ok. The salary floor is a cool add. But I'd punsih the sales of that team harder.

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203095.11 in reply to 203095.10
Date: 11/22/2011 8:12:11 AM
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If you have some idea for changes as you think this teams should have even worse conditions you can bring some idea on suggestion forum (22297.1). But unless there is any change implemented there is nothing wrong on this strategy.

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203095.12 in reply to 203095.11
Date: 11/22/2011 8:28:16 AM
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We're ok there's nothing wrong, but when you plan a 48min for a player alone and you take only 36 min because of the forfeit, that's a little bit raging and disrespectfull no ?
that's my point of view

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203095.13 in reply to 203095.12
Date: 11/22/2011 8:38:30 AM
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Yes, that is for me issue but it's not the same as tanking. As I mentioned before tanking team in terms of future use of tanked money should train players.
I think if you forfeit home game you should gain no attendance money. If you forfeit away game you should gain no attendance money next home game. But again it's idea which belongs to suggestion forum (and I think it has been discussed there recently).

Last edited by rwystyrk at 11/22/2011 8:45:47 AM

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203095.14 in reply to 203095.11
Date: 11/22/2011 8:39:18 AM
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legal doesn't mean right.

I'm a firm believer that every team should always try to win and that shouldn't be even a rule. The salary floor is a nice punishment. Now that you say it, i'd probably suggest that a team that forfeits should have a $$$ penalty.

How can not showing up be ok?

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203095.15 in reply to 203095.14
Date: 11/22/2011 8:43:27 AM
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It's ok. I just remind you that this is not right place to discuss it if you want any change.

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203095.17 in reply to 203095.14
Date: 11/22/2011 9:27:19 AM
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legal doesn't mean right.

I'm a firm believer that every team should always try to win and that shouldn't be even a rule.


i think Bb is created around tanking, not in that extreme like here. But you often have the question to sacrifice games, to build up enthusiam, manage your minutes from your stars(especially during the cup) and training your players(especially off position)

The salary floor is a nice punishment. Now that you say it, i'd probably suggest that a team that forfeits should have a $$$ penalty.

How can not showing up be ok?


i also think that the BB should change something about it, but i think it is more urgent to make it fair for the opponent. I prefer the solution, that they play a "bot" for minutes and training instead.

And the punishment for teams could also be harder, but not to hard cause i think most of the forfeits are due faults etc. then purpose.

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203095.18 in reply to 203095.17
Date: 11/22/2011 9:48:25 AM
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Agree mostly.

Where's the suggestion forum?

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