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234720.8 in reply to 234720.7
Date: 1/15/2013 8:55:51 PM
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If u r planning for the long term, train SF. it's difficult to train one and difficult to find a proper trainee but the salary increases the slowest. a world class SF only 50k or so salary and a 20k-30k SF is good enough for league 3 or 4, which is totall affordable. unlike training a big man whose salary quickly grows to 50k or above in 2-3 seasons and u have to sell him to get back little money while still struggling in lower leagues

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234720.9 in reply to 234720.8
Date: 1/15/2013 9:01:59 PM
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Ah I see, so a SF would be more economical to train, but I just have to take my time since there are so many skills to train, and his height is in the middle meaning none of the skills will train faster than normal? Plus, why is it a 20-30k SF is good enough for D3/4? Is it because they can play inside and outside?

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Date: 1/15/2013 9:11:34 PM
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u r right. outside skills train slower than short guard. inside skills train slower than tall big men. but u can always decide whether u would want a outside focused or inside focused SF. usually people prefer shorter SF as more outside skills to train than inside, so perhaps u can buy 2 short trainees and 1 6'7 to 6'9 trainee.

u can search those 20k to 30k SF on the market to get a sense of what they are like. (ignore those with high JS, HA and DR but crap in all other skills)

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234720.11 in reply to 234720.3
Date: 1/16/2013 12:30:49 AM
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I believe it is better to train guards and SF's. Partially because it tends to be MUCH cheaper because of their salaries, but also because you can buy tons of bigs on the TL that are suitable (not the case with guards). Lastly, I think they are simply more fun to train because you get to train more than just 3 skills haha

If you're only training 3 skills with bigs, you're doing it wrong.

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234720.12 in reply to 234720.11
Date: 1/16/2013 12:35:28 AM
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I agree but unfortunately when you look at U21 big men and young centers, generally no other skills besides inside shot, rebounding, inside D, and shot-blocking are above mediocre-average, unless they were drafted with skills like that.

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234720.14 in reply to 234720.12
Date: 1/16/2013 1:22:31 AM
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Smart nations... not so much.
Two of my trainees are bigs, both have reasonable/good secondaries - and both were in their U21 NTs (Japan & HK). The Japanese player left the U21 program, and immediately went to the NT.

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234720.15 in reply to 234720.14
Date: 1/16/2013 4:07:09 AM
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Its because of "big number" of active teams in Nippon ;)

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234720.16 in reply to 234720.7
Date: 1/16/2013 4:28:15 AM
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I agree with all what you saif except that SF is maybe the position for which potential is the least important, look at all the NTs, that's maybe the only position where you'll see superstar potentiol players. For others high MVPs will already fall too short for most NTs

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234720.17 in reply to 234720.15
Date: 1/16/2013 5:35:12 AM
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Ranked #38. You can check it out for me if you like, but that might be pretty good for a nation of under 30 users. Not quite as good as Lithuania, granted.
Whilst at it, you might want to check HK. I believe that they have a pretty good U21 program (where my *other* trainee saw good minutes as a 21yo).
My point is, Mr Glass is largely incorrect when he states that most PFC trainers are only focusing on primaries - even those with NT players.

I think the term I'm looking for would be "nyah-nyah"?

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