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I think that even if the other stuff could be worked out, the country issue is a deal breaker. Once managers are allowed to manage outside of their own country for the purpose of a second team... chaos!

If wanted a team in, say, Barbados, I could buy a second team, maybe land it in there, and then let my first team go bot. Then I'd have a team Barbados. If I paid for that second initially, I'd be pretty ticked off if I had to drop that team before dropping my first team.

If I get two teams in the same country, and I already happen to be in, say, Barbados (I'm not), and if I were a really good coach (that's debatable), odds are really good that my two teams would face each other fairly often, whether in the NT or in the same (top) league.

Philosophically, I think it's probably better for the game if managers gave their all to their one team. I was once on CSFBL (it's a baseball website, similar idea to this one) and I have to say that managing more than one team sucked a lot of the fun out of the game, in the end I could never do a decent job of managing more than one team well at any given time, so I basically would have one good team... and a bunch of mediocre teams. I'd hate to be in a league with mediocre teams with blase managers.

Let me know if you want me to come up with more reasons why I think we should stick with one-team limits.

I'd hate to be in a league with mediocre teams with blase managers.

Welcome to large percentage of current leagues in BB.

I'd be OK with the 2-team thing, but I still would rather see more competitions between players in different countries than allowing managers to sign up in any country.

Last edited by Kumiko (CAN U21) at 2/21/2013 5:04:36 PM

Maybe instead of going into another country BB could create a country for this purpose alone. You could call the alternative, pretend country, "Utopia" or something. It would be a massive country with probably more than 6 divisions and would have the chance of being a better way of determining the best team in BB. The Cup would only allow the top however many is possible in this pretend country. It would be like BB starting over except just in one league with players already built and such.

An issue that arises though is should there be an NT for this nation with players from pretend magic land with a BB flag? With the amount of teams in this nation it would surely become champions. Languages, forums, gametimes are all problems. To solve gametimes it could just always be played at the same time as the home teams usual gametime for their original team.

I dont think there would need to be an NT for them which lessens the need for a forum for this country. However drafting in this league would turn up players from what country? The same country that the original team is from? Can BB even do that without individually changing players nationality?

I think a rule would need to be put in place where if your second team went bot, you keep your first team. If your first team went bot, you would lose the second team.

I think it would be a lot too much and I dont think it would work.

Maybe instead of going into another country BB could create a country for this purpose alone. You could call the alternative, pretend country, "Utopia" or something. It would be a massive country with probably more than 6 divisions and would have the chance of being a better way of determining the best team in BB. The Cup would only allow the top however many is possible in this pretend country. It would be like BB starting over except just in one league with players already built and such.

An issue that arises though is should there be an NT for this nation with players from pretend magic land with a BB flag? With the amount of teams in this nation it would surely become champions. Languages, forums, gametimes are all problems. To solve gametimes it could just always be played at the same time as the home teams usual gametime for their original team.

I dont think there would need to be an NT for them which lessens the need for a forum for this country. However drafting in this league would turn up players from what country? The same country that the original team is from? Can BB even do that without individually changing players nationality?

I think a rule would need to be put in place where if your second team went bot, you keep your first team. If your first team went bot, you would lose the second team.

I think it would be a lot too much and I dont think it would work.

Aside from agreeing that the multiple teams and moving countries thing wouldn't work, i agree, if it were done, then this "utopia" idea is probably the only fair way to do it.

The main reason why having additional teams is good is this:

BB is a game with a long learning curve. You need to have multiple options to test strategies and figure out how everything can work.

By the time I figured out even a decent amount of strategy and started doing things close to the right way, I'd been up to Div. III and back down again. And I still have yet to put all the useful draft and training advice I've read into action. Basically, I just played the game and learned by trial and error for a few seasons and got fortunate enough to win a league and promote. Then and only then did I get into a league with an active forum and learned all the things I should have done sooner, like build arena up, etc.

I am now stuck in the hardest league in all of Div. IV and have been for several seasons. The only way out might be to get really bad again, drop down and then try to promote in an easier division. It takes years to do that, and in the meantime I'd really like to try to win with my current team.

Why not be able to start over in any other location and help populate countries without depth of competition? It's a way to learn more, test strategies and enhance the game by paying more to play more. I just don't see a downside.

Also I kind of want to add that if there ever were to be implemented I dont think anyone should be allowed to have more than 2 teams. That would be hectic.

I still think that one of the better things they can do is introduce a second tier B3, but lets not get offtopic.

I think that the suggestion is ok. If you can prevent teams from having contact with each other it could work. I think that Wolphs suggestion of at most one team in B3 is kind of a necessity.

In Football Identity you have your original football player that you control and can buy extra characters. I think that the original team should be in your own country. This team will stay your first team no matter if you like it or not.

A major drawback to the suggestion is that you will insert a big problem with bot teams. To minimize this problem I think that you should pay for your team on a season basis. This would mean that your extra team(s) will always be botified before start of next season and there would not suddenly be a bot team during season. A disadvantage would of course be that there would be more lucky losers in leagues.

About players in both of your team. I think that a quarantine of 3-5 seasons might be better than to never allow a player to be in both teams. If it is such long time in between there are certainly no cheating option.

I think that the rules discussed in this thread makes it hard to implement additional teams. It would require some new codes written and it might also cause a slower server because you would have to go through some extra rows of code for every transfer.