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236345.8 in reply to 236345.3
Date: 2/22/2013 9:45:48 AM
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I buy your arguments and maybe is this a small problem in bigger countries like USA. In Sweden, however, we have a really big problem with teams getting stucked in second league. I could also see an alternative where number of teams are reduced from 16 to 12. I do not favor it though because I very much like that as it is now.

Re-drawing leagues in divisions is nothing that I recommend. I think that most times actually likes to play same teams season by season so that you don't have to analyze other teams more. As it is now you have 5 new teams per season of 15 opponents so you do not lack new opponents.


Right, but as I was saying, if you instead change it to a power of two rather than power of four, teams will be stuck in those series even longer, as only three teams will turn over instead of five each season. Redrawing isn't an ideal fix, either, and I'm not sure I'd actually want that, but what it would do is at least ensure that there isn't one league that's impossible to compete in for a new team while another new team may end up in a league where they pound bots and promote to I.

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236345.11 in reply to 236345.8
Date: 2/22/2013 10:15:28 AM
Jokehim Maniacs
SBBL
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Right, but as I was saying, if you instead change it to a power of two rather than power of four, teams will be stuck in those series even longer, as only three teams will turn over instead of five each season.

I don't believe in only two teams being relegated. I suggested 2 teams to promote. If only two teams should relegate then the size of the leagues needs to be changed as well, logically to 12 teams for each division. Then suddenly things would change a lot and I would rather suggest a factor of 3 for each division, i.e. 36 teams in second division instead of current 64 and so on.

It is not optimal with two teams promoting but that is at least something I prefer to get fewer teams at each level. It could still be important to win playoff final due to higher prize money and similar so the value of winning your division could still be there. That would of course lead to teams wanting to avoid second spot as they get punished with a smaller award.

I don't have an optimal solution and that is also why the suggestion thread is good, i.e. so that you can improve each others suggestions. I only know that I am not happy with current situation in Sweden where teams are likely to quit because there are too few challenging games.

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236345.12 in reply to 236345.10
Date: 2/22/2013 10:17:35 AM
Jokehim Maniacs
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I agree that if we users are allowed to create a second team and enter a league in another country that the game time should be the one in that country. I see no good argument for altering game time for some matches,

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236345.17 in reply to 236345.16
Date: 2/26/2013 11:09:12 AM
Kitakyushu
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but weren't you the guy saying that mexicans had an advantage in the BBB because they were playing at another time that asian teams ?

that was Sharman back in the day...and he had a good point.
Example...I play a team in South America in the BB3 at 10am Japan time, that is a Thursday morning for me and a Wednesday night for the South American team. What this means is that my Enthusiasm would drop due to the Thursday morning daily update and the other team would still be on the day before Enthusiasm. Sharman thought that all BB3 games should be played at 3pm Central European Time which would be 11 pm in Asia and 8am in the Western Hemi. But all games would be played in the same 24 hour Daily update range. That is what Sharman thought, (I think it was just an excuse he made up for when he got smacked up by BB Toros).

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