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okay ... my mistake. But Range is a must and defense is something you can´t have enough
Hell Ya - We are coming from the North to conquer your arena ...
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Well, if you want JR, too, you definitely can't make him a SF. Your proposed SF build with the JR ins't feasible when you take into account his height and age.
Your best route is to make him a PF. If you really want him to be an outside offense PF, just do Outside Shooting first to get his JR up before you get his inside skills up to what you want. But I would consider building him for an inside (or at least balanced) offense since his IS is already 14 and that (expensive) skill will be wasted in an outside offense. It would be easy to build him as the scoring half of a twin towers duo. Just jack up his ID and IS and find a center with high ID/RB to compensate for your PF's low RB. And while you're training him at IS, you can get plenty of IS on a SF and/or guard trainee.
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I dont mind if he becomes a SF or PF, i just want a player that is going to fit both inside and outside offences and be able to defend his position, what would be the best skill set for him for that?
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Well, you've got to think about what kind of defense he'll be shooting over. If he's a PF, most PF's don't have a whole lot of OD. So you don't need a whole lot of JS/JR to be successful against them. If you're looking for range as a versatility skill, not a dominance skill, I think you'd be fine with 8+ JR. And the beastly JS will already help. But since his other offensive skills (JS/HA/DR/PA/IS) are all already so high, he's not often going to think a 3FG is his best shot.
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my advice? Do what the clam says.
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I have a very similar player:
USA Guadalupe Álvarez (28413943) Bookmark this player Power Forward
Weekly salary: $ 14 241
Role: rotation player
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DMI: 352600
Age: 22
Height: 6'11" / 211 cm
Potential: superstar
Game Shape: proficient
Predicted salary: $ 23 000
Jump Shot: sensational Jump Range: awful
Outside Def.: proficient Handling: tremendous
Driving: wondrous Passing: strong ↑
Inside Shot: sensational Inside Def.: sensational
Rebounding: proficient Shot Blocking: awful
Stamina: strong Free Throw: strong
Experience: inept Cap: 19.68 (24 to 26)
Skill Points: 95 (59/36)
This is what I want his finished skills to look like:
14 4
13 17
19 11
16 13
13 4
I was thinking I could work on passing at age 22 then OD at age 23 and then 1on1 forwards at age 24 then IS/RB at age 25. Then he would play as an inside focused SF.
Any thoughts on that?
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Date: 6/5/2014 10:58:28 AM
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If you train him how you said he will be useful only at
inside tactics
as SF (Totally you will add him
29 skills
)
In my opinion if he looks like :
13 7
10 13
14 9
15 16
14 7
He will be one of the best PFs for
every tactic
and not only for inside tactics...Also his value will be higher and more managers will want to buy him when you will sell him (Totally
23 skills
added)
So decision is yours...
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Date: 6/5/2014 1:22:04 PM
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I'm not going to sell him.
The thing is the toughest position to fill is SF. So I figure he can play SF or PF. He will be a look inside SF primarily. But he could also play PF, at least that is the plan.
I would rather get him more OD...it makes him more versatile.
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Date: 6/5/2014 2:23:00 PM
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I know that the toughest position to fill is SF but he is too tall to become SF (211cm) and you want to add him 19 outside skills and only 10 inside skills...
What level is your trainer?
It is very difficult to train him outside skills due to his age and height and dont expect that every week he will skill up even if you train him in one position
Based on your training programme:
He will play SF as specific player at inside tactics and he will not attribute as well in outside tactics because his JR will be too low...Also as SF 13 OD it isnt much especially if you want to promote to first league
As PF his inside skills will be low
So if you continue to think it is better to train him as you said then do it...it is your player
Lets have and other opinions...
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Date: 6/5/2014 6:37:07 PM
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I ran your analysis through the training simulator and the closest I get is:
TSP = 119
14 7
10 14
15 9
15 16
14 5
I get an age of 27.5 to reach this. Also those values send him exactly to the high side of his cap at 26. Note that JS is higher due to JR training. Also hand/driv training bumps up one each.
My strategy: TSP = 120
14 3
13 16
18 11
16 13
13 3
I get an age of 27.25 to reach this. I am not training JR or SB directly but I assume they will each pop at some point (3 is their original untrained values). My cap equates to 25.
So to summarize, you are suggesting SB/JR/ID in favor of OD/Driving/IS/Passing.
My strategy for the player = offensive minded player who can contribute from either the SF/PF position
Your strategy for the player = Post player who can can shoot outside/inside
Best offenses for my player: Inside/Neutral
Best offenses for your skill set: Inside/Outside
Why I like my skill set better?
He concentrates his skills in specific areas to make him strong offensively while being able to play at the 3 spot. He will be a matchup issue for an outside based SF.
One other note is that my build leaves him uncapped longer and has some wiggle room in case he is a low end superstar. Also, his salary is much lower in my build.
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Date: 6/5/2014 6:56:20 PM
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I suggested you my idea because i dont like specific but all round players and they are more useful...
Keep training ;)
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