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From: Al-Bundy

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Date: 11/16/2015 1:40:01 PM
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You get 2 Luxury Boxes for free, if you have 0 after Allstar break. If you already have 2 or more, you get nothing.
Same with other categories.

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Date: 11/20/2015 6:15:37 AM
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They could have refunded the money of the seats for managers who signed up last season or added the extra seats for free. I wouldn't feel that great if I was one of those who missed out just because I signed up a few days too early.

You can make the case that those who spent the money 2 seasons ago have already got their money back so I'd leave it at 1 season.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 11/20/2015 6:15:59 AM

From: nebi

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Date: 11/22/2015 5:00:46 AM
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All my money since October last year was invested in arena... While my results suffered.

+1 for refund.

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Date: 11/22/2015 8:30:47 AM
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Since it would have been better to give some warning in advance, I'd certainly agree a refund is fair.

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Date: 11/22/2015 9:19:23 AM
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They have given a half season advance warning. The total increase in the starting seats costs a total of $274,600 to build. Anyone who built these seats last season or even early this season likely will make more money from having those additional seats than they would make from waiting until the all-star break to get these seats for free.

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Date: 11/22/2015 12:31:49 PM
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Anyone who built these seats last season or even early this season likely will make more money from having those additional seats than they would make from waiting until the all-star break to get these seats for free.

Only if they had fannies in the seats, which is very unlikely at lower levels. It is far more likely that additional seats were empty and not revenue-producing.

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Date: 11/22/2015 1:17:09 PM
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Not really true at the numbers we are talking about here. Even in the lower divisions, you can sell 5438 bleachers, 500 lower tier, 60 courtside and 2 luxury boxes with proper pricing. And anything above those levels is completely irrelevant to the discussion.

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Date: 11/22/2015 1:17:34 PM
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The total increase in the starting seats costs a total of $274,600 to build. Anyone who built these seats last season or even early this season likely will make more money from having those additional seats than they would make from waiting until the all-star break to get these seats for free.
Assuming you are getting the pricing right it normally takes more than a season to get your money back from the increasing gate receipts. Everyone who had a look into this came to the same conclusion. Even if you're selling out categories at max pricing you would still need almost one season.

I didn't realise this new policy would start after the all star break, I said 1 season back for the reasons above. I suppose that would make it 1 season counting from when the change is implemented. These guys are nearly guaranteed not to have paid back their investment in seats that the new managers will get for free.

In general I can't understand how you can possibly penalise someone who joins right before the ASG and someone who joins right after, by effectively granting the second team a lot more money than the first (300k+200k+275k for the second, 300k+200k for the first). If you decide you do this change you should just do it immediately and totally or partially refund those who have built the same seats in the last season or so.

Alternatively they could progressively increase the initial arena size in several steps over the course of a season, rather than in one go. They'd still hit their final target, but at least they would not substantially penalise anyone for joining a day too early.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 11/22/2015 1:24:39 PM