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1 check, 2 check, 3 check go read my post above again with this knowledge. I tracked all sublevels. All of them.

Josef Ka used his experience with Turbato on this and by his own admission it did not satisfy those 3 criteria so his was an educated guess more than the result of some data gathering exercise.

As you pointed out it is hard to get correct answers because most people only train MVP and HoF beyond the cap and that poses 2 problems:
a. it's not clear when the player caps since there are sublevels to potential
b. players cap when they are relatively old and training in general already slowed down

Any analysis on this topic should be done with lower potential players or even announcers/bench warmers, as they may be born capped or you can guarantee they are capped very quickly. As I said, lower potentials who cap when younger can easily get further through the cap as evidenced by that PAS who was well into the MVP cap level (this is because lower potential players will cap younger of course).

Last edited by Lemonshine at 9/24/2019 7:07:36 PM

thank you, guys, for the input and briefly letting me brainpick your experiences.

i think i... will go for it with Lozano (my player in question). i hope i can get that skill to lvl 19 (2 pops away right now). i already have a cheap Exceptional trainer (less than 25k salary), so i have a safe economic flow for at least 3 seasons in that matter. also, i can train draftees and sell them, if i need to recycle the trainer or face some unexpected issue. also, it would not hurt me to buy a 4 million arena. ;)

my player already plays NT, but is not a truely "elite" NT. foreing NT hall-of-famer PGs should eat him with those 5, 6 or more extra pops.

thank you, and good night!