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52561.8 in reply to 52561.7
Date: 10/4/2008 9:29:52 AM
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So, as I said, I'm quite satisfied with ent system, especially with playoff settings, because in this way some non deserving team wouldn't suprise stronger team


But that makes the game highly predictable. Why will they play, if we know the stronger will win everytime?

Surprise is something that happens all the time when it comes to sports... without surprising results, the game just become mechanic and boring.


so those team would have to put more effort and in the end are wunerable and will lose from that one team that hasn't put same amount of effort just because he has more luck with opponents.


Luck? Is this all about luck? I dont think so. Luck is a small part of the game, but u cant base the game only on luck. Using your example, a 'unlucky' team would never have the chance to win a championship, as he will be vulnerable everytime he gets into playoffs.
That will make the player feel bored or sth like that, and sooner or later he will abandon the game. Why would he stay in a game that he has no chance of winning?

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52561.9 in reply to 52561.6
Date: 10/4/2008 9:42:23 AM
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I think you overestimate the size of enthusiasm effects. Yes it will deliver a few percent better performance in some areas for each additional level of enthusiasm, but a clearly superior team with lower enthusiasm will still win.


U really sure of that? I dont see it happening... and i 'll tell u why:

If there's a clearly superior team, this team will play TIE all the time, so, its enthusiasm will always be high.

Enthusiasm effects, in my opinion, should only appear when the team is playing with Normal or CT.
The fact that makes high ent teams play better in TIE than someone playing Normal it's completely unreal.

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52561.10 in reply to 52561.5
Date: 10/4/2008 9:55:13 AM
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If you are operating from the weaker position, which from you post seems to be the case, then your stated preference would mean you had no hope in hell of beating a significantly better team.

In fact, i'm not on weaker position. I dont see why my position is important, btw. I think it's a forum that we can discuss some topics, no matter my position.

When we had old entusiasm system, the hope of beating a better team was real. Now, there's no hope. Stronger team will always be the champion.

Why would you want to remove your only chance? It almost seems that you want to "base your strategy" in no hope at all.

No matter u try, if u get in finals with less enthusiasm than your opponent (and your opponent has a team as good as yours), you are going to lose. Playoff enthusiasm doesnt let players choose to use the enthusiasm u have in only one or 2 games.

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52561.11 in reply to 52561.8
Date: 10/4/2008 10:14:16 AM
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There is no lack of surprising results, believe me, or just check out my last cup game, or last year playoff game that I lost, or since I'm U21 coach, check out the stats of the only red score game this season. There is plenty of surprising opportunities in this game, and that is why it is so good, I really like every aspect of the game...with one exception, slow or inadequate loading that happens sometimes.

It is not so important how high can someone jump, more important is who is the last one standing
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52561.12 in reply to 52561.10
Date: 10/4/2008 11:51:38 AM
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In fact, i'm not on weaker position. I dont see why my position is important, btw. I think it's a forum that we can discuss some topics, no matter my position.


I think we have a language issue or something here, because I have no idea how you think I implied anything about your right to speak in the forum. My post was about weaker teams playing strong ones. I don't even know how to respond to this because it is so absurd.

No matter u try, if u get in finals with less enthusiasm than your opponent (and your opponent has a team as good as yours), you are going to lose. Playoff enthusiasm doesnt let players choose to use the enthusiasm u have in only one or 2 games.


Maybe you need to plan your regular season better then. Why does another player who is as good as you have better enthusiasm? Plan better and this won't happen.

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52561.13 in reply to 52561.12
Date: 10/4/2008 3:11:23 PM
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it's just an example.

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52561.14 in reply to 52561.13
Date: 10/4/2008 3:24:23 PM
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but it is the only example you keep using. Do you have another?

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52561.15 in reply to 52561.14
Date: 10/4/2008 4:51:28 PM
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If u are that good, why dont u give me one?

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52561.16 in reply to 52561.15
Date: 10/4/2008 6:09:47 PM
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My point is that you can't say "that was just an example," as though I am picking on an insignificant point, unless you have more scenarios that apply.

Who said anything about me being good? I said that if you are up against a guy in the playoffs with as good a team as yours who managed to get there with more enthusiasm, then he planned his season better than you did. How did you decide that I was actually saying that I am "that good" instead?

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52561.17 in reply to 52561.1
Date: 10/4/2008 7:25:03 PM
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this is a game an di will miss something without the enthusiam thing, and management of my enthusiam, if it realistic or not ain't that important for me.

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52561.18 in reply to 52561.16
Date: 10/4/2008 7:32:44 PM
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ie. in one conference you have one strong team and seven lousy teams, while in other you have 4-4 situation, so those team would have to put more effort and in the end are wunerable and will lose from that one team that hasn't put same amount of effort just because he has more luck with opponents.


This is a scenario, and that has nothing to do with planning better or whatever, as u can see.

The 1-7 will ALWAYS be in advantage, and that's not good for the game.

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