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i believe he want that for tuesday too, and i could understand it especially in bottom leagues(where relegation only provides advantages) ;)

The actual system ain't perfect, so the discussion what is better 5 or 6th placed will come more often ... And it is difficult to say who is right, for me the current system is working but for him and other player is it not - and because the preferences are totally different in the pro and contra party it is hard to say who is right.

Ok, I see your point and the other guys already used my arguments :)

I only want to say that you're advice about losing games on purpose is not fair to the other clubs that may count on you defeating their rival or something.. I wanted to finish 6th but I didn't want to play my C as my PG and oposite..I played to maximize my trainings and I won 2 games that I didn't want :)

Oh I agree it's not fair, and I played to try to win despite the fact my last game of the season was against the #1 team. But I'm just pointing out that the system as it stands now unnecessarily hurts 2 out of the 8 teams in a given conference for really no rational reason. I would think it would take about all of two minutes for the "coders" in charge of the game to change the code to allow #5 and #8 teams to schedule scrimmages on the same day that the #1-4 and #6-7 teams have their games.

It's essentially the same process as the Cup during the season. If you are in the Cup, you have an automatic game on Thursday. If you're not in the Cup, you have the ability to schedule a game on Thursday.

This would be the same thing. If you're in the playoffs, or in the relegation battle, you have an automatic game. If you're not, you have the ability to schedule a scrimmage that day.

Last edited by J-Pop at 11/2/2008 7:17:50 PM

It's essentially the same process as the Cup during the season. If you are in the Cup, you have an automatic game on Thursday. If you're not in the Cup, you have the ability to schedule a game on Thursday.

I was sure it would be something like that so we won't lose form, training, money... Now I'm pissed off! Stupid, stupid, stupid...

This discussion has been put up many many times.

5th place: certain of staying in the league, but less training, less revenue.
6th place: more revenue, more training...

Wrong comparison! You should compare 6-7 teams with the 8th and the 1-4 teams with the 5th. Now the things don't look fair, aren't they? The 8th not only is relegated but his team will become weaker and with less money. And the 5th not only lost chance for promoting but now will have to suffer. Not the 6th, the 7th place is better than the 5th!

The 8th not only is relegated but his team will become weaker and with less money.

I would love to get some of those 8th place draft picks, though. Actually I would love to get even those 5th, 6th, or 7th place draft picks, but that's my problem.

You are missing the point..

No, I'm not.

You can't both promote and get good draft pick, it was you're choice..

On the other hand some clubs are too weak to promote and yet too strong to relegate through play - out game..Explain me in all your wisdom why I should not be 6th rather then 5th and receive money, training, and better draft pick?

- maybe you want receive money for succesful play, in the season ... If you loose game you loose income in your home games.

- maybe you don't want to play the league below

- maybe you could arrange the 2 games week with your training programm(if i flew out of the play of, i'm happy that i could train IS or Rebounding with my guards, with ft or stamina training is it equal if you play 2 or 3 matchs)

You can't both promote and get good draft pick, it was you're choice..

Man, I can't promote, period. I'll try my best to win the title, though. And hope the best for the draft. :-)

On the other hand some clubs are too weak to promote and yet too strong to relegate through play - out game..Explain me in all your wisdom why I should not be 6th rather then 5th and receive money, training, and better draft pick?

By all means finish 6th if your situation is as you describe.

Getting to participate in the playoffs is a big deal for many regardless of the financial effects it may have. Of course, some consider a higher draft pick more valuable than a one-game playoff experience and therefore rather finish lower. No problem, they can do it. Fifth place deprives you of one game (!) but guarantees you at least one more season in your current league. Sixth place is not necessarily too bad, but it's already a gamble. Naturally there are teams that can march into the relegation knowing they will win, but for a majority of the teams it's not a sure win. Half of them will lose, every single time. (And what if you face that other guy who felt like you and gave up on the playoff spot for the higher draft pick?)

The lowest (human) league level is a special case where the 6th, 7th, and 8th place finishes really are better than the 5th place finish. Due to the pyramid structure, it's a special case that affects surprisingly many teams. However, since we're basically discussing tools for success, it's not that important for most teams. (I mean, how many seasons does a team that worries about their success and some individual training losses spend at the bottom of the system anyway?) If there's no chance to make the playoffs and win the title, it may be better to lose some games and possibly some money at the gate and get the extra training (compared to 5th place) plus the better draft pick. Personally, I'd rather go for the title, if there was any real chance.