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85112.8 in reply to 85112.6
Date: 4/16/2009 7:00:55 AM
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I hope nobody minds me asking another question or two in this thread? :)

1. I'm trying to work out how many minutes each player should play during the week. Obviously I want my trainees to play at least 48 mins to get their training (and conversely I don't want them to play much more than 48 mins as this training could go to another player). But what about non-trainee positions? The rules are a little vague when it comes to game shape. Is 48 mins ideal as well?

2. Most weeks there are 3 games, yes? I am currently training Inside Scoring on Centres and Power Forwards. Should I therefore have 3 trainees for each position?

3. How 'multi-skilled' are BB players? From the skill contributions on the help forum (3944.3) it looks like most positions benefit from most skills.

Hmm, I think that's all... for now at least!

Thanks again for helping this newbie out! ;)

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85112.9 in reply to 85112.8
Date: 4/16/2009 7:40:05 AM
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1) Concerning the training position you're exactly right. For this positions and all the other, if you look at the game-shape, the best is, when your players plays around 48-65 minutes if you don't have a special doctor. If someone lays more than 70-80 minutes his game-shape goes down.

2) 3 games x 2 positions = 6 trainees. BUT that would mean that they all play exactly 48 minutes, which is real difficult for you ( f.e. someone gets foul-trouble). So normaly if 5 players get min. 48 minutes training, you allready did a good job.

3) They should be multi-skilled, but of course a Center needs more inside-defensive than a PG. So if you have 5 trainees for PF and C than just start with Inside Scoring, Rebounding, Inside Defensive after probably one season you can think about some weeks passing or something like that for them. But this is real difficult to organize, cause than a Center has to play as a PG... but that shouldn't be you're problem now.

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85112.10 in reply to 85112.1
Date: 4/16/2009 7:45:43 AM
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Your trainees:

As I can see you have two good trainees for PF and C (Forrest and Fasoulas); if you buy new player have a look at the potential, but at the height, too! You bought one player as a PF, who is only 203cm heigh; that means that it will take longer time/training for him to learn inside-skills like inside-scoring.

Enough for today ;-) and... just ask if you have questions!

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85112.11 in reply to 85112.10
Date: 4/16/2009 8:12:15 AM
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Thanks for the very detailed replies, with help as good as this I'll pick this game up in no time! :)

Heheh, was wondering why the 203cm player was so cheap! I read about how height effects training speed before I bought him, guess I need to adjust my idea of 'tall'. ;)

Roughly what height players should I be trying to get for PF & C as trainees?

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85112.12 in reply to 85112.11
Date: 4/16/2009 8:15:44 AM
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1. 48 mins for game shape is the least. My trainees play 48 mins every week (when is possible without fouls, injuries and another problems) and their game shape are respectable or more.

2. Yes, you should have 3 trainees for position (without fouls, injuries and..)!

3. Many skills are important for BB players:
Point guard: driving, outside def, passing, handling, jump shot, jump range
Shooting guard: jump range, jumpe shot, outside def., driving, handling, passing
Small forward: Jump shot, inside shot, outside def., rebounding, inside def., jump range
Power forward: Inside shot, reboungind, inside def, jump shot, shot blocking
Center: inside shot, rebouding, inside def., shot blocking.
Rebounding and passing are important for the whole team.

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85112.13 in reply to 85112.11
Date: 4/16/2009 8:31:08 AM
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The taller he is, the faster he will train in inside skills.. If I had to train PF or C I will stop at 208cm..

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85112.14 in reply to 85112.13
Date: 4/16/2009 10:01:28 AM
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if possible even a bit taller.

but I think it's easier to get a taller player than a player with high potential; cause the most of the new managers just/ too much look at the potential.

From: Dormouse

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85112.15 in reply to 85112.14
Date: 4/16/2009 10:18:06 AM
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For C and PF with high skills potential is very important because the slowdown is very visible, if you want train them for more time.

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85112.16 in reply to 85112.14
Date: 4/16/2009 10:20:40 AM
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honestly, i have to say i don't think the size of the player is that important.

i trained a 201 cm guy for three seasons as an inside player and i didn't discover any remarkable differences in training speed in comparison to my taller trainees.
so i think the training speed differences caused by size are very small, if your player isn't like 188 cm tall.

in my opinion for inside training everything above 200 cm is fine and for guard training everything below 200cm.
but as i wrote: just my opinion :-)

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85112.17 in reply to 85112.16
Date: 4/17/2009 2:20:07 PM
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One thing which doesn't make sense to me yet is the 'best position' for each player.

Does this change as a players skills change with training? Or does it stay the same throughout a players career?

Does it have any effect in a match? Or on training?

Cheers! :)

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85112.18 in reply to 85112.17
Date: 4/17/2009 2:50:59 PM
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The shown "best position" is just a "hint" for you. It has no effect on training/match!

=> It can change after training (f.ex. a SF which gets Inside-training will be -after a time- a PF)

=> Sometimes/Often it's better, when a player doesn't play on his "best position" (f.ex., when you play 2-3 and Look-Inside, than it makes sense that a PF plays on the SF-position)

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