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124105.80 in reply to 124105.79
Date: 1/14/2010 11:32:56 AM
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There are only three players in the entire NBA that are shooting .600 from the field, and a total of 10 that are shooting .550 or better (among qualified leaders).

Good inside players typically shoot .500, good guards shoot .450.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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124105.81 in reply to 124105.80
Date: 1/14/2010 12:08:59 PM
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didn't kow that this get worser around the states, i though the players are in favour through the "safety" Zone under the basket who gives a lot of 2+1 chanches.

In the BBL they are lot more 55+ shooters, and normally the game is considered as defensiv and hard:
http://www.beko-bbl.de/linkit.php?menuid=269&topmenu=...

But maybe hit have the reason that our big guys, shots less.

Edit: there is a column with field goal percentage.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 1/14/2010 12:12:05 PM

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124105.82 in reply to 124105.81
Date: 1/14/2010 12:20:57 PM
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Yes, but shooting percentages are calculated differently. US overall field goal percentage (as well as BB FG%) includes both 2 and 3 point shots.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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124105.83 in reply to 124105.82
Date: 1/14/2010 12:32:36 PM
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this stats include three point shots too, even if the most players didn't take much. The ND field goal percentages is more what you are thinkng about.

Oly place 8 Marko Scekic take a reasonable amount of three pointers(13), which reduce his shooting percentage from 69,6% to 63.

This is i believe the only shooter on the top 50 in that list:

http://statistik.basketball-bundesliga.de/bbl/stats/playe...(place 44)

Wich means that a normal team have in average two scorers, with better shooting percentage then him.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 1/14/2010 12:36:00 PM

From: ZyZla

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124105.84 in reply to 124105.83
Date: 1/14/2010 12:50:30 PM
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probably we should be able to choose how we wanna see statistics, so as there are a lot more users from Europe then US everyone would be happy.

For example I prefer 2pt and 3pt in different columns instead of FG (for me it`s almost useless as I have to count out 2 points percentage by my self)

But all of this, even a few post before main is OFF-TOPIC, mates.

ZyZla - ZyZlūnas ZyZlavotas ~c(=
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124105.85 in reply to 124105.78
Date: 1/14/2010 1:52:45 PM
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I think you overrate the offensive ability to score. A good percentage to score in a season is what? 50-55%. Even the best players of the world don't have better stats that that.

It's an extremely rare feat for an NBA team to have an overall field goal percentage above .500. A good scoring perentage would be anything in the .450-.500 range.


Yes, I am aware of that, I just wanted to make clear that even players with very good percentages don't make all of their shots. Which means that even if you are in a tactical miserable situation, it doesn't mean that your team is obliged to get run over in a few minutes. It will still depend on the shooting ability, game shape, etc.

Also we should remember that the possibility of getting into a tactical trap is present for every player. Which means: Saying "what will I do, if my oppponent does this and this", the answer is, you better are prepared for it. Or have a strategy "plan B". :)


From: ZyZla

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124105.86 in reply to 124105.85
Date: 1/14/2010 2:04:51 PM
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And for example if I do not have any good 3pt shooter why I always have to try shoot so many times from 3pt line? Some time I would prefer to try to score from 2pt.

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124105.87 in reply to 124105.85
Date: 1/29/2010 4:34:35 PM
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Personally I would agree with option to preset something only for substituting players. That makes any sense for this type of game and it would not be unnecesarily complicated.

If you say to coach that he has substitute centre if he is losing or keep him there if he is winning. So you can better ballance power of your team / played minutes.

Also would be interresting to have the option for score which have player himself. If you set him there to play 30 pts, but unfortunately is well defended, coach would substitute him for someone else and you could use him more in other match.

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124105.88 in reply to 124105.87
Date: 1/29/2010 5:04:59 PM
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But all those means more changes to the Game Engine...

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124105.89 in reply to 124105.88
Date: 1/29/2010 5:34:45 PM
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I dont think so, if any player score or defend something would be the same, there would be only option to switch him if something goes wrong.

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124105.90 in reply to 124105.89
Date: 1/30/2010 4:41:04 PM
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hmm...and who decides if and when something goes wrong? seems quite complicated.

I would like to see us coaches have more influence in the outcome of a match and not let the game engine make more decisions for us. When you say "if something goes wrong", the question is where is the limit? and then again why? and what if I would like to keep a player playing despite of him being well guarded? He could still use his passing skills...

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