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I just think the points allocations are super lame. It should be more about your prowess on the court. That's my opinion anyway...

Definitely agree with the 2/3 and LI issues.

What amazes me... is 150-300k guys can be a lot cheaper to purchase than 50-100k guys, and even as low as 30k.

Agree. Guys with salaries over $200,000 and no secondaries are dirt cheap and it doesn't reflect how effective they are. In one of Naker's championship runs he had a team of guys like that with all atrocious secondaries and he came very close to winning it all.

Ah well.

I guess it's important to be grateful for what we have, too.

Also the fact that there are lot more div2 and div3 teams then div1 teams.
Only teams in div1 can sustain players of 200k+ salary. Less demand means they cost less.
Whereas the 50-100k players are more dear to buy cos every division needs them, either for as starters or for backups.

There is the occasional exception, isn't Duffman now toiling away in division III? Even worse look at this player who was playing in division IV!

Siim Kriisk (11507655)
Point Guard
Owner: rtfg
Weekly salary: $ 288 765
Age: 30
Height: 5'10" / 178 cm
Potential: hall of famer

Last edited by yodabig at 12/30/2012 11:12:12 AM

There is the occasional exception, isn't Duffman now toiling away in division III? Even worse look at this player who was playing in division IV!

Siim Kriisk (11507655)
Point Guard
Owner: rtfg
Weekly salary: $ 288 765
Age: 30
Height: 5'10" / 178 cm
Potential: hall of famer

That's just nonsense... No div4 team should be able to buy a player with skills like that.

There is the occasional exception, isn't Duffman now toiling away in division III? Even worse look at this player who was playing in division IV!

Siim Kriisk (11507655)
Point Guard
Owner: rtfg
Weekly salary: $ 288 765
Age: 30
Height: 5'10" / 178 cm
Potential: hall of famer

That's just nonsense... No div4 team should be able to buy a player with skills like that.

I'm sure they can buy them, it's maintaining them that's the problem. It tends to be noobs who either don't take notice of the salary or don't realise how much it kills them and how quickly. They then, of course, sell them for a pittance to get rid of them or fire them.

However, there are also players out there (Iwen comes to mind) who could easily afford to run $300k guys in a say Div V because they're cashed up.

Last edited by Mr J at 1/1/2013 12:23:58 AM

Yeah, I'm just saying that we shouldn't be able to afford them. The game is more and more promoting "saving up".

Yeah, I'm just saying that we shouldn't be able to afford them. The game is more and more promoting "saving up".

Yeah, true.

On a different note (but still financial) BB posted this earlier last year:




Posted by: BB-Marin 8/15/2012 11:34:30 PM
Offseason update


As we have mentioned in our last season news post, we are a bit worried about the number of users that have chosen to follow the strategy called “tanking”. Even though the strategy is not very successful, some teams still pursue it and it's frustrating for their fellow league members to see less competing teams. Therefore, we have decided to take some measures. “Tanking” should still be an option and we don't want to eliminate it completely, but from now on, the profit, we predict, won’t be so high. Starting in Season 21, the salary floor will change for the first three divisions. First division salary floor will be 180% of the tv contract, second division will increase to 140% and third division to 100%. The other divisions will remain the same.

Having been tanking for all of this season I agree that they really have affected the 'profit'. I've tanked before but it is definately harder now. The big difference I've noticed is the sudden arena attendance drops. They were never this severe before. This is, I believe, where they're destroying tankers.

Many have discussed tanking before so I won't start a new debate but I just want to say this: Tanking is a necessary part of this game in order to survive at the higher levels. As for their above statement, 'it's frustrating for their fellow league members to see less competing teams'...what a lot of rubbish. Teams know how hard it is to fill their arenas, maintain competitive player lists, train their next superstars while trying to win their respective championships. Tanking is an element of the game that should have been left alone in my opinion.




Last edited by Mr J at 1/1/2013 10:18:48 PM

Many have discussed tanking before so I won't start a new debate but I just want to say this: Tanking is a necessary part of this game in order to survive at the higher levels.

If this is true, then the game is flawed. It should be possible to survive in the higher leagues without tanking, so if it's not, there's a major problem with the game design.


Last edited by Matt1986 at 1/2/2013 2:57:31 AM

I'm not talking about 'surviving', Matt, but winning the championship. Or at least having the team that can do it.

Last season in my first stint in Div II I had, by the end of the season, a solid lineup. It was good enough to beat the Titans fairly. Then, in the SF, my best shooter played a bad game and I got the tactics wrong. I lost and the Titans went through to GF where they lost in a 3 series battle with Tigers.

My point is this: I could have said, "Shit, stuffed up the tactics, shooter had an offnight...next season will be different; I'll be right there next season.' The trouble is, that wouldn't have been the case. My lineup was good but it wasn't good enough to win the GF if it got there. So, how do I improve it?

OPTION 1. Buy and sell (hurts merch) to make a small weekly profit and hope that in four season's time I can use that accumalated wealth to add a final great player. that's fine but in the meantime, my players a re three seasons older, my trainees have become more expensive and I probably couldn't afford the salary of the player I am just about to add.

OPTION 2. Don't train rookies, keep older good players (sorry Naker) but still not make any profits. Of course, when I go to sell them I can't get shit for them as they are now 34, 35 and 36.

OPTION 3. Tank. Reduce player salaries to the floor, accumalate as much money as possible, build arena, train rookies, don't get relegated and then, if all goes well, use savings to create a better version of the team previously had.


Tell me why option 3 shouldn't exist?

I might just add this:

How many times do you see teams rent players at the finals to get that promotion, or at least try (sorry Hax.). If you go with option 1 and 2 and all goes well and somehow you make it to the GF, you likely face some rent-a-geriatric who crushes your dreams. Option 3 at least allows you to create the team that will be able to defend such a possibility.

Again, tell me why Option 3 shouldn't be allowed in this game? Remember, Matt, this is a game and not a real-life similation of Basketball.