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From: CrazyEye

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167495.82 in reply to 167495.81
Date: 1/8/2011 11:05:24 AM
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For example, I can't have you just sit there and lie and continue to claim that it is as possible to earn as much revenue in JBBL as it is in Germany Division I. It just isn't true. Ask the BBs if you have to,


i am quite sure that the BB already stated that i am right, the season ticket holders raise a while( i believe around 7 season to reach an equilibrium) and in the first 4-5 you have bigger steps in first league).

I showed you a example of a team, who have a better income then me in his league games, competing with opponent who are maybe third or fourth league niveau and having a roster which is weaker then yours.

And you could ask everyone, that ticket prices around 20 bucks and just selling 50% of the seats isn't the best. You should have reduced your prices before and you would get more income, maybe not the average of a german first div. team, but at the level of a german team who get relegated.


I am not fighting for my idea to be implemented, in fact I expect and hope that any idea I have, if used, is modified and combined with the ideas and minds of other individuals to have the best possible outcome.


so why is it bad, when i point it out where your idea lacks. And just saying that all reason for international competion, and ignoring the rest so that i try to repeat because i hoped i don't make my standpoint clear enough. And yes i get angfry when you just ignore all the facts i posted, and my tone get bit stressed.

From: CrazyEye

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167495.84 in reply to 167495.83
Date: 1/9/2011 5:38:00 AM
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I was not and am not intending to complain about my own ticket sales, I sold rather well, near sellout most of the season. What you need to realize is that I built thousands and thousands of seats this year;) When I came in I was selling out with max or near maxprice seats, SELLING OUT, but my arena was very small, because, like I said only my 3rd season in the game. LOL, you are so foolish sometimes. You look at my arena page and assume that hte number of seats I have now is what I had at the beginning of the season, and that to you I only sold half my seats


you say that your league already maxed out your ticket sales, and arguing with an average where many teams have 10k seats, or like you not the properiate ticket prices to get the possible div I income ;) While you had build them, when you don't think, that your current situation wasn't optional?
I stay with it when you want to argue that way, you should have those seats before and get the right prices because else it is no wonder that the average is lower ;)


Your suggestion to have/build more seats and sell for less is also irrelevant. I built fast dude, fast. My arena is about as big as it could possibly be after only 3 seasons.


good example that you don't earn money that fast like in germany :)

And further you imply that all JBBL guys don't know how to set their ticket prices, that is just insulting and stupid.


when you say there max out their visitor income, as u said this was right ;) When they didn't have it like u said now, it is wrong.
Sure you could joke on my, but i didn't analised nippon div one for three season ike you and kno w what everyone doing - but i know how the game works and arguing with the arguemtn you gave me.

From: CrazyEye

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167495.88 in reply to 167495.85
Date: 1/9/2011 8:23:43 AM
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no i just say, when you play this game for 5(better 7) seasons and are in div. your visitor income is the same then for the german clubs ;) Even when you ignore examples, and bring in examples who don't have the infrastructure or the prices fitting for them.

The difference is really the TV income when you are in a weak league, because this is the point which is highly affected from the other teams, and maybe a bit the cup.

You don't see such young teams in spain, germany, italy etc. in first div, that why the income seems to be unfair for you - but really it isn't.


From: CrazyEye

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167495.91 in reply to 167495.89
Date: 1/9/2011 9:22:56 AM
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i had it my income dropped with it, especially when i lost my away game before ;) The low prices for the lower tie, is some kind of an insurrance for loosing my home game. Sometimes even a mixed calculation have it advantages, when you are a medium team and maybe play 3 of 4 games without a win in the last one you maybe earn more money when you set the prices to low for the winning game. SSo maybe i loose 10k with my scheme, but when i lost i made 30k more and i am surprised by my succesful season ;)

Not forgetting that his team was more succesful then me.

But what have this to do, that weak leagues don't generate visitor income.

Top teams can reap well over 700k every home game by my calculations.


i also copied laim ticket prices in the past, my income sinks ;) Yes they could earn it(or maybe more around 650), but they had to be very succesful in the last season.

PS: you round also a bit to your favors, you know?

Tenaka(Frence Champ, best reg. game out of the list):
Bleacher = 300 000
Lower TIE = 128 870
Total = 428870

My best game:
Bleacher = 193800
Lower(+37 seats from the more expensiv cat)= 247 132
Total= 440 932

Depending that he have the better survey(past season, cup), i am quite happy with earning more money ;) Yeah and i wouldn't recommend to build that much today, but we have to build blind. Ok he maybe could sold some extra bleachers, but he wasn't sold out the games before so his number of seats are nearly perfect.off topic closed.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 1/9/2011 9:39:58 AM

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