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212354.826 in reply to 212354.824
Date: 1/2/2013 4:25:06 AM
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Agreed.

I've heard the arguments about 'killing' the transfer market before, but let's be honest... the transfer market is pretty much dead anyway, I can't see this doing too much more damage.

As soon as you promote to II and above, the game turns into much more of a financial sim than what it really should, I agree with you on that too.

The other option would be to have a minimum contract for players purchased e.g. 8 weeks. So if you want to buy up before the finals, you can still do it, but you'll have to pay a minimum of 8 weeks salary for any new players you buy.

I think something needs to be done to change how this game is played, because at the moment it's less enjoyable than what it could be.

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212354.827 in reply to 212354.826
Date: 1/2/2013 4:57:31 AM
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I think something needs to be done to change how this game is played, because at the moment it's less enjoyable than what it could be.


why do you think I'm tanking away in div 2, iwen, zazz, etc in div 4

From: Mr J

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Date: 1/2/2013 6:46:41 AM
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Totally agree with the 8 week scenario, Matt. At the very least, as you mentioned, players need to 'qualify' to be able to play finals. Whether it's 2, 4, 6 or 8 weeks...it's a simple way of limiting the need to tank while ensuring that teams don'e lose Gfs on account of Rent-a-monsters! But, as we have all noted here (and plenty of times elsewhere) BB needs to at least trial it instead of ignoring it.

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212354.829 in reply to 212354.828
Date: 1/2/2013 8:50:33 AM
Koopasaurus
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I guess there are different ways to play the game.

Some likes to train players and couldn't care less about winning championships or promoting.
Some just wants to win asap, trying to find the fastest possible route.
Some likes to play at a steady pace and are content just to hang around 5th.
And some just likes to make drunken remarks on the forums for shits and giggles.

All are valid playing styles and there is no right or wrong way to play the game as long as you still enjoy what you are doing.

Now in terms of strategy, that is just a matter of opinion. It is no secret that BB is more of a managing/finance game then a strategic one. LI/M2M seems to be way to go atm so go out there, save your money and build a team that can utilize LI/M2M the best.

The only strategic part of BB is working out your schedule to see who you want to use a CT against. And also how well you manage the random anomalies such as injuries, gameshape issues and unfavorable CUP draws.

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212354.830 in reply to 212354.829
Date: 1/2/2013 9:20:31 AM
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There's no mention anywhere that BuzzerBeater is a financial simulation. This is from the home page when you first register...

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Sure, managing your finances is an important part of 'running your own franchise', but it seems like the balance is heavily slanted towards financial management over basketball strategy/management, at the moment. That's not to say it can't change, but it's something that would require some action from the BBs for any changes to occur.

I'm not sure what other's opinions are, but it seems like there's very little interaction between the BBs and users. They're entitled to ignore the opinions etc of users if they want (it's their game after all), but if they're really serious about improving the game they definitely benefit from discussing various ideas with the community.

From: Mr J

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Date: 1/2/2013 9:49:47 AM
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I'm not sure what other's opinions are, but it seems like there's very little interaction between the BBs and users. They're entitled to ignore the opinions etc of users if they want (it's their game after all), but if they're really serious about improving the game they definitely benefit from discussing various ideas with the community.


+1

Couldn't agree more. However, I see BB in the same way I see our Government. Both ignore the people even though it's the people who have their finger on the pulse...

Last edited by Mr J at 1/2/2013 9:50:39 AM

From: yodabig

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212354.832 in reply to 212354.831
Date: 1/2/2013 4:38:30 PM
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I just think the balance is a bt wrong. In the NBA or ABBL there are usualy one or two teams tanking each season. Here you often have up to six to eight teams in the one 16 team league tanking in the same season. In division IV and III it doesn't seem to be such a problem but it is in II and the ABBL because it is just so hard to win those divisions that you need a really solid financial setup to try and win.

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212354.833 in reply to 212354.832
Date: 1/4/2013 4:56:06 AM
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The age old debate...... to be honest, I don't think they'll change much as long as they're still bringing in a bit of coin.

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212354.834 in reply to 212354.832
Date: 1/4/2013 9:32:26 PM
Koopasaurus
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Yeah that's cos in the ABBL when one team announces that they will tanking the whole season. Then usually two teams will tank as well cos they know that if the can just come 6th or 7th and save a whole lot of coin, they can buy up big at the end of the season to try to win the relegation series. A tanking team in the ABBL can make up to 300k net per week so if there are 11 weeks in the regular season, thats an extra 3mil you can spend on players at the end of the season.

Usually when that happens it makes it tough on the other conference cos they will be 3mil behind and most likely lose in a relegation series against a cashed up tanking team. Also this happens when there is a bot team in the ABBL as well. That is another reason why from season to season one conference is stronger then the other, cos one conference is trying hard to get at least 5th spot to avoid the cashed up tanking teams of the other conference.

This season in the ABBL, we have two tanking teams, one from each conference. So that creates an even playing field for both ABBL conferences.

Anyone notice Whitebeard is undefeated again this season? Even in the B3 as well. Just remember Rome, Athens, Babylon where all super powers once. Whitebeard will fall just as hard =P hahahah

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Date: 1/5/2013 8:04:44 AM
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I don't know, Koops, Whitebeard looks fantastic...just saying. :-)

From: JW

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212354.836 in reply to 212354.835
Date: 1/9/2013 5:13:41 AM
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tanking is a good strategy... but for some reason i can't keep doing it for more than 1 season! I tried, but got bored of it... I guess thats why i am forever doomed in Div II. There always seems to be @ least 1 (if I'm lucky, more likely 3 or 4) good side that is always in my way.
If only there was an easy solution, but for now BB still has my attention :)
jw

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