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Date: 9/19/2008 9:51:24 AM
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I don't really understand, I mean, i'ts good, but i've been training passing, and one of my "untrainable" players has popped twice in three weeks. Does this mean that it isn't dead accurate, but just an approximation on how they can be trained.

P.S he is a 21 year old 6'3 SG.

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Date: 9/19/2008 10:51:35 AM
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I think the trainability thing is less a judgement of whether or not a player will continue to see skill increases and more of a judgement on how much dough he can potentially bring you by continuing to train him.
I think.

Last edited by somdetsfinest at 9/19/2008 9:24:07 PM

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Date: 9/19/2008 12:07:12 PM
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it's true...

i had a player that they say has a low trainability...

guess what, he just popped 2 skills today...Ü


i think that it is not perfect yet, or yet, it is not that flexible... like, trainability is divided into 4 categories only, unlike the potential cap that has more than that

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Date: 9/19/2008 12:43:07 PM
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I think the trainability thing is less a judgement of whether or not a player will ocntinue to see skill increases and more of a judgement on how much dough he can potentially bring you by continuing to train him.
I think.

I am hard pressed to believe this judgment can be made without having extensive transfer stats, and I don't think BB-Stats has access to such.

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Date: 9/19/2008 1:54:06 PM
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Guys, guys, why make such a big deal about this trainability thing? Everybody who has played this game for more then a month knows that a 18yo MVP is more trainable then a 26yo bench warmer, no matter what you call it in a BB tool! So can we drop this and focus on this really nice tool that somebody has made for us all to use, so we can enjoy BB even more?

Keep up the good work, JudgeNik!!

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Date: 9/19/2008 8:34:06 PM
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we cant assume that the formula given by judgenick on the website regarding trainability is accurate 100%

unless a bb gave their training formula everyone is assuming how to compute it.

lets just understand it as a indication but not really a thing to follow.

i have nothing against it, it is really wonderful i loved it!

but to say it as to follow it 100% all the way . . . . come on! lets not put ourselves in a position that it beocmes a norm that 18 or 19 yr old rookie with 6th man status cant be a damn good role player that you given up on him just on day 1 of the game


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49968.91 in reply to 49968.88
Date: 9/19/2008 9:22:53 PM
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I hear ya. I'm not making a value judgement on it one way or another. I was just pointing out that, based on the reply by the guy who made the site, I think the trainability feature was intended to reveal more about future transfer value ( or future talent level if you prefer) than the chance that a particular player will or will not continue to receive skill increases.

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Date: 9/19/2008 9:26:39 PM
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And, by the way, I think your site is fantastic. I am sort of a stats geek but a computer luddite so this is great for me.
Thanks.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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Date: 9/19/2008 11:29:50 PM
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Thanks for all the positive feedback guys.

Sorry about any issues with the site at the moment. I am getting some timeout errors getting the information from BuzzerBeater...

Trainability is probably the wrong way of putting it. I originally thought the meaning was going to be more "ability to be trained" and then it turned into "value gained from training"

So yes you will get a 6'3" 18yo SG popping regularly even though they have atrocious JS, JR, OD but that will mean the value you get from the player is pretty poor. I will change the terminology used by it I think to make it clearer.

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