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oh, thanks for this information!

I love the idea of relegation, but relegating 5 teams is too much. My league last season one division swept the other division in relegation. This season looks the be a repeat, with one division having 7 competitive teams.

Question guys,

How do tbe majority of these top teams run a 8 man team for the 3 games of the week? How do they manage the player game shapes to stay proficient with that and stay competitive in tournaments and league games?

I’d be they train game shape & probably have a good doctor-masseuse and sports psychologist or whatever staff help with too many minutes played. And because they probably train game shape, I bet most the entire team is older (beyond typical training age). I’d say typically these are the teams “going for the championship” because they’ve chosen to throw all their expenses behind a limited # of top tier players and spend a lot to keep them on the court.

Hi everyone!

Is there any chart of what TSP trainee should have by age?
I have couple of 19 yr old (soon to be 20) trainees in their mid-60's and feel like I'm lagging at least 10 or so TSP. What is considered ideal or good TSP for player at age 19, 20, 21 etc? (at start of season)

It's a too complex question for a single answer. It depends on how the player has been built: an all-around player will have a higher TSP than a specialized player. There are no charts as players can develop at different paces depending on their size, the skills they train, the trainer quality...

As a very unreliable way to compare to others, you can estimate having +15 skills points per season during the first 4 seasons (18: 50 TSP, 19: 65 TSP, 20: 80 TSP, 21: 95 TSP). Please note that TSP alone doesn't mean much (if it means anything at all).

I play in Malaysia Division I which is called MBBA. The 2 conferences (Big 8 vs. Great 8) are very unbalanced. There are 5 bot teams, 4 of them are in Big 8. Only 7 teams have total salaries above $500k, out of those 7 teams, 6 are in Great 8.

I understand that with the promotion / relegation, it will help to balance the 2 conferences but it will still be far from it. Is there any way to balance the 2 conferences to make the game a bit more interesting?

Probably more suited for the suggestions forums but it's honestly not something we can control. Unbalanced conferences has always been a problem, it's even a problem in the NBA where for the past two decades the West has almost always been stronger than the East.

NBA doesn't have a promotion / relegation system which is supposed to help. It does in most cases. However, Malaysia doesn't have enough users to make it balanced in the next few seasons unless some teams from the strongest conference quit the game. Malaysia divisions' II is not competitive enough to bring 5 good new managers every season.

I guess my question was more if it has ever been done before and if it would be considered.

Last edited by Nico4nicolas at 8/2/2023 7:18:31 AM

Malaysia divisions' II is not competitive enough to bring 5 good new managers every season.

With the anti-tanking measures in place right now, I'm pretty sure no league in the world has a Div II team that can be competitive enough to balance both sides, if one side is already too strong to begin with.

We have the same problem in the SBBL. Last season we had 3 crazily expensive teams in big 8, and only 1 in great 8, which actually turned bot. My team was probably the closest to the big 4 (before I decided to sell off my key players and focus on training), and my weekly salary was just slightly above the salary floor. But this season, with my absence (and the best Great 8 team going bot), a newly promoted team ended up leading the conference, but he's not tipping the balance over anytime soon - his roster is still pretty far away from touching the rosters of those top teams, and that's also partly because of him only being able to buy players below 200k salary. It's impossible to buy a championship roster right after promoting. So I guess most of the time such things are out of the question.

However, what you can do is weed out new players and guide them how to run the team well, and hope that they all go into the weaker conference and blossom from there. The newly promoted team I mentioned above was mentored by me for around 1 season, so while he hasn't touched the level of the top SBBL teams, leading the conference in their second full season is quite an achievement, so I'm pretty confident that they'll keep growing. If there are a few more such users, then it shouldn't be hard to balance out the conferences.