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i wouldnt worry about handling on no.3 for now - give him his training in your scrimmage games and if you dont want him to be a liability focus on his OD straight away.

i would suggest working out what you want your no.1 trainee to look like. A PG, SG or combination of the two? Only you know which would suit your team and the way you like them to play. Once he is done you can tackle the needs of your 2nd trainee and then the 3rd. I would have thought whatever you do to 1 and 2 would make 3 look great by the age of 21.

Whatever your target is for no. 1, OD up to 16 or 17 would be a good idea and this suits trainees 2 and 3.

if you train 1 at some point to improve his JR and JS this would suit no.2 who's JR is a relative weakness (even if you had planned to make 2 a PG)

If you end up doing lots of od,js,jr and pass training you might find HA on no. 3 looks more acceptable and with no need to specifically train it.

you should plan ahead when you will do any of the 2 position training like jump shot for guards as you would get the most use out of it if you could fill the other 3 slots with young players needing JS

good luck with your trainees they look very promising

i wouldnt worry about handling on no.3 for now - give him his training in your scrimmage games and if you dont want him to be a liability focus on his OD straight away.

The U21 scout told me to train handling, so OD would pop easier because of the elastic effect. I have at least one game per Week which I can´t win or can´t lose, so I don´t really need to train od right away, because he won´t be a weakness.

i would suggest working out what you want your no.1 trainee to look like. A PG, SG or combination of the two? Only you know which would suit your team and the way you like them to play. Once he is done you can tackle the needs of your 2nd trainee and then the 3rd. I would have thought whatever you do to 1 and 2 would make 3 look great by the age of 21.

Well, I want both of them to be comboguards. No. 1. a bit more SG, No. 2. more PG.

Whatever your target is for no. 1, OD up to 16 or 17 would be a good idea and this suits trainees 2 and 3.

I think I will most likely do this in this and next season!

if you train 1 at some point to improve his JR and JS this would suit no.2 who's JR is a relative weakness (even if you had planned to make 2 a PG)

Correct, this is something I´ll have to work on!

If you end up doing lots of od,js,jr and pass training you might find HA on no. 3 looks more acceptable and with no need to specifically train it.

I´ll only train it because of the elastic effect. I don´t think that handling is needed to be trained when it is on a similar level as the other skills, too. But when it´s this low, it might slow down the OD training

you should plan ahead when you will do any of the 2 position training like jump shot for guards as you would get the most use out of it if you could fill the other 3 slots with young players needing JS

Yeah I will. But I don´t think I´ll need to train 2 Pos. this season (ex. ASW), because I´m nearly save from depromotion this season.

good luck with your trainees they look very promising

Thanks for the good input!!

Here's my main trainee that i want to turn into an outstanding American NT player.



Ed Shepherd (19239345) Shooting Guard
Weekly salary: $ 6 169
Role: regular starter
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DMI: 21900
Age: 18
Height: 6'2" / 188 cm
Potential: hall of famer
Game Shape: respectable
Jump Shot: strong Jump Range: strong
Outside Def.: strong ↑ Handling: average
Driving: strong Passing: mediocre
Inside Shot: pitiful Inside Def.: average
Rebounding: average Shot Blocking: atrocious
Stamina: inept Free Throw: average

Experience: atrocious

Hes a great player and if trained right could definitely make the NT teams. What level trainer do you have? Also, are you in contact with someone from the US NT?

1st trainee: 2 OD pops, 1 DR pop, 1 JS pop

Weekly salary: $ 4 283
Role: rotation player
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DMI: 17700
Age: 19
Height: 6'5" / 196 cm
Potential: MVP
Game Shape: respectable

Jump Shot: respectable Jump Range: mediocre
Outside Def.: respectable Handling: respectable
Driving: strong ↑ Passing: respectable
Inside Shot: respectable Inside Def.: mediocre
Rebounding: awful Shot Blocking: average
Stamina: awful Free Throw: strong

Experience: atrocious

2nd trainee: 1 OD pop

Weekly salary: $ 4 384
Role: regular starter
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DMI: 23900
Age: 19
Height: 6'4" / 193 cm
Potential: perennial allstar
Game Shape: strong

Jump Shot: respectable Jump Range: inept
Outside Def.: average Handling: mediocre
Driving: mediocre Passing: average
Inside Shot: mediocre Inside Def.: mediocre
Rebounding: average Shot Blocking: inept
Stamina: mediocre Free Throw: average

Experience: pitiful

Last edited by jan_the_man at 5/30/2011 1:57:33 AM

I agree with Manon. If you want the best players for your team in this case, focus on them in order of age as the younger ones need training in all skills to some extent whatever the style of PG/SG you want them to be in their 20s.

If your dream is to have the 3rd trainee to be in the U21s no matter what then all you can do is keep in close contact with u21 management and do what they ask. however, it is a competition between many managers and young players and not all of them will be successful in the end.

the main reason why i am replying again is about your mention of the elastic effect. Is its existence proven? Even if it is im not sure its impact on the number of pops you see would be noticeable. Especially if one skill is at 4 and the others at 6 and 7 and the skill at 4 was likley to pop indirectly when you focus on all the other higher skills one by one.

If one skill was 1 and the others 7+, then in the interests of having a balanced guard playing on court i would even them up a bit before training the other skills (rather than in the interests of avoiding this so-called elastic effect). perhaps managers who have been in this position can comment on elastic effect and its size

if i was american I would feel like i want to cry in happiness that you pulled such a great rookie and also in despair as at first glance it looks as though he isnt getting the 48+ training time he could be.

at first glance either: 1. the training minutes he can get each week can be improved to 48+, rather than 30-40 and/or if he is getting 48+, 2. the training minutes you give to your other players can be improved as well.

you have another 5.8k salary 18yo you must have bought and some others with star potential sitting there.

obviously you need to balance team performances with training and the two dont immediately go hand in hand, but if you focus on training and line them up right in games you can consistently get 3 trainees at 48+ minutes whilst training skills at 1 position.

theres stuff on this in the referenced help thread and much much more

also, if you dont know how gameshape works start learning about that too. its all in the same thread.

good luck! im very jealous :)

doesnt this just show that a double pop is possible and that it happened when the other inside skills were far higher than the skill that double popped?

if this is abnormal, it actually suggests a different kind of elastic effect (unbalanced skills catch up quicker)

i havent read the whole thread so apologies if there are other examples later on.

will read later!