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NT Season 38... More Lion Roars? or Just kittens purring? (thread closed)

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Date: 6/14/2017 2:29:50 PM
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Also... seeing you throw your beer at the wall when the game goes close in the last couple of minutes is a perpetual novelty

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Date: 6/14/2017 7:10:56 PM
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It wasn't just the players Woody; the roster you had four seasons ago was so full of holes from 1-3 that it was impossible to work out the best lineup. It was only when you started to trust your own decision making that results became elite, and the integration of guys like Carter and Findlay were a big part of that.

To me, the only other manager with a comparable England NT record is Vecx's U21 stewardship.

So far, England has produced two elite BB managers (won lot of trophies, had clubs ranked top 20) - me and Vecx. And I'm borderline ;-)

The only English manager I would support for the NT job is Vecx. That's not to say I'm advocating support for certain non-English managers who appear to have pretty mediocre records with their club side.

My preference is still for a non EBBL-manager to run the NT but preferably one with decent credentials...

From: LA-Vecx

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Date: 6/14/2017 8:03:08 PM
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I am flattered and although I am not sure I am worthy of the complement I appreciate it. I have thought long and hard about this but remain convinced that at least for the next 6 months, my work / RL time pressures do not make for an ideal time to run the NT. Likewise I do agree that running the NT at EBBL does place you in a tricky situation of perhaps unfairly knowing your opponents players. Having said that, I'd love to give it a shot at some point and that may mean either choosing to drop again to train another Innes or going for it while in EBBL.

I'm still rebalancing my team so time will tell.

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Date: 6/15/2017 4:29:31 AM
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I agree with you 100%. Especially the fact, that NT is just a bonus for training players and to train players should be the first interest for the managers own team. I never told people to train this or that in terms of training just for the NT. I was always to take in account what the managers want, means what kind of player they want to build and than to check which is the quickest way to reach the target. This is how you get managers a bit more involved. Of course that means a bit more "paper work" but it helps and often it pays also dividends, sooner or later. And for training I was not only helping the NT prospects. If somebody has questions, I was always eager to help, even if that means a lot of writing.

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285258.89 in reply to 285258.86
Date: 6/15/2017 4:34:20 AM
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I have a bit another point of view. There some good managers out there which haven´t won a lot of trophies, but know the game really good. For me a good manager don´t need to win a lot of trophies necessarily. And in addition, to manage a NT is a bitt different than to manage a club.

But I respect your different view. If everybody has the same idea - it would quiet boring here ;)

About the point of the guards, I am a guards-guy (Scout in Germany for the Guards for a long time), so I know a think or two about guards. And I am not scared to take young prospect over old players - if it helps the bigger picture. For me the age border is 33, or 34y for a really exceptional player. I will never put i a guy with 35y.

But that´s it from my side. I really like the discussion, I apparently started. Just go on guys.

Last edited by Coach MK at 6/15/2017 4:39:34 AM

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Date: 6/15/2017 8:58:29 AM
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Yes, nice to see a discussion here. Even if it is mostly the usual suspects.

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Date: 6/15/2017 11:59:46 AM
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That's always the case Gully. Always the same idiots - like me

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Date: 6/18/2017 9:37:59 AM
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This is probably the last we will see of Mac and Innes at NT unless they get a backup roll, I just wanted to thank the NT managers for putting faith in them. Likewise the whole England community for cheering the team on, it's great to be a part of this small but dedicated bunch of misfits.

Innes is now most likely past his prime, he dropped 10 tsp this season so now only 132. An incredible treat to have trained such a player and I can only encourage you guys both from a finance perspective (Innes brings in an extra 60k pw merchandising for an NT appearance) and also from your own team perspective that training from the ground up is 110% worth it.

Any assistance I can provide whoever gets the next NT role is yours. Thanks again, it's been an amazing season for me and I can't quite believe how it ended. Roll on season 39!!

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Date: 6/18/2017 10:32:17 AM
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All the credit goes to you mate. Innes was a pleasure to coach in his prime, he worked in every offence and was pretty much the game MVP 90% of the time. Probably the most important NT player England has ever had, just an incredibly well trained player. Mac wasn't bad either ;)

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Date: 6/18/2017 1:15:36 PM
Durham Wasps
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Innes has really been the best English player I've ever seen. Certainly the best forward, and I think I've seen the two best at their peaks so I can say that with some confidence, despite Marshall having higher tsp.

Since first joining the u21 backroom team when Woody was coach all I seem to have heard about was Innes. It will be strange to see an England team without him. Probably will be, along with Gascoigne, the player England miss most.

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