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I think there are few easy ways to speed up the game, or at least making new users to stay. I can imagine that when new users acknowledge they will have to wait real life years to build a competitive team, many of them never login again.

1) new users start with bigger arena and few better players (30-40k salary wise or ~100TSP wise or something like that)

2) improve the draftees. Their highest skills could be for example 10 or 9. They will still be limited with their potential, they will just get there sooner. Alternatively, draftees could arrive at 20 or 21 years proportionally better then at the age of 18 or 19. In both cases around 2 seasons of training are saved, that is the most boring and painful 6 real life months because they are terrible players at that age and skillset. U21 could then shift to U23 or something so there will still be junior NT teams. As a bonus, good draftees with lower potentials might become more relevant in the game because it wouldn't take long to train them until they become useful players. I think overall this would shorten the time needed to build or rebuild your team, which I imagine could convince some users to stay in the game. The question (or the tradeoff) to me is however if this makes the training process too easy.

I can imagine that when new users acknowledge they will have to wait real life years to build a competitive team, many of them never login again.

But that is not true. This game is for people that enjoy looking how his team improves very slowly, his players improve very slowly ... this is the most enjoyable part of the game. When a project is ended, and you have to part with your old players, that is the hard part. While your team and your players are slowly improving, no matter how slow, it is easy to enjoy it.

You are right, it is for people enjoying this very slow progress, and that is the reason we are having this conversations, because it seems less and less people are enjoying it. I actually also like this slow progress (I started playing 3 and a half seasons ago and I am having fun while being patient and waiting for team to mature).

Having better draftees, it will still be plenty of time watching and enjoying your player's growth (just not from 55 TSP to 130, 140 but from 70 - 80 TSP on or something like that ). You might enjoy your time with players even more as they would be better and helping your team earlier.

Having better draftees, it will still be plenty of time watching and enjoying your player's growth (just not from 55 TSP to 130, 140 but from 70 - 80 TSP on or something like that ). You might enjoy your time with players even more as they would be better and helping your team earlier.

But that is not true either. If draftees go from 55 to 70 tsp, the average div.1 starter will go from 130 to 145 tsp and the situation will remain the same. Well not exactly, because you will need higher potential, so you will have to select a trainee with 55 tsp and higher potential, instead the 70 tsp one with lower potential, and then the situation will again be the same.

There are subtleties, but I hope you get my point.

I understand, this is valid point. I guess simply raising tsp of draftees wouldnt work due to reasons you stated. It should work though if draftees were 20-21 years old, having tsp in the same range as current 20-21 years old have. This should speed up the building/rebuildig process while maintaining cap of the best players. Overall quality of players might raise a bit though if more managers would decide to train. Besides this would erase inequalities between draftees of different age as 10 tsp is roughly what 20 year olds gain with good trainig (I dont have much experience with training of 20 year old players so this estimation might be off).


Last edited by julo at 4/7/2021 9:39:48 AM

For me the main issue is the bot-filled leagues. The pace of the game would be much less of an issue if you could have meaningful games straight away against teams of a similar level.

definitely.