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if i was american I would feel like i want to cry in happiness that you pulled such a great rookie and also in despair as at first glance it looks as though he isnt getting the 48+ training time he could be.

at first glance either: 1. the training minutes he can get each week can be improved to 48+, rather than 30-40 and/or if he is getting 48+, 2. the training minutes you give to your other players can be improved as well.

you have another 5.8k salary 18yo you must have bought and some others with star potential sitting there.

obviously you need to balance team performances with training and the two dont immediately go hand in hand, but if you focus on training and line them up right in games you can consistently get 3 trainees at 48+ minutes whilst training skills at 1 position.

theres stuff on this in the referenced help thread and much much more

also, if you dont know how gameshape works start learning about that too. its all in the same thread.

good luck! im very jealous :)

doesnt this just show that a double pop is possible and that it happened when the other inside skills were far higher than the skill that double popped?

if this is abnormal, it actually suggests a different kind of elastic effect (unbalanced skills catch up quicker)

i havent read the whole thread so apologies if there are other examples later on.

will read later!

I wanted to tell the same, without this example :)

He perfectly described the meaning of elastic effect :D

i understand the principle of the effect as far as the slow down of training the higher related skills are concerned, i just didnt realise the boost to the training speed of the lower skill was proven.

and im unsure how big the impact of these two sides to the elastic effect are in practice.

i know one example cant prove the rule, but i had a 18yo player (level 5 trainer) with 1 passing and 6/7+ in other outside skills and with 1 position passing he popped as often as expected, (not more than expected which would indicate a noticeable/powerful elastic effect)
i think he popped 3 weeks in a row, then didnt, then started popping each week again. Even if he started out at 1 with no passing sublevel, with a worthwhile elastic effect surely he would have popped 4 or 5 weeks in a row?

Hmm, I wonder about the passing and it's link to other skills via the elastic effect. The reason being that passing isn't favored by short stature versus tall. So, perhaps passing isn't linked to OD/handling/driving in the elastic effect.

Alternatively, training passing does train driving and handling slightly, so that might suggest they are connected by the giant imaginary training rubber band that is "the elastic effect."

For that matter, is there any definitive list for what skills are connected elastically?

If you want him to be an NT player, you will have to train OD to 16 first. If you dont do this now, his chances at making NT are extremely small.

lol

And why exactly should I train OD first? Sorry but training one skill up first, than the next skill and so on makes NO sense to me.

i agree it makes no sense.

my advice to you would be to decide what you want him to look like in a few seasons time and work out a training schedule that can achieve it. In terms of the order of training, i am a fan of keeping OD one or two levels ahead of the other skills but you still maintain a player that is fairly rounded.
the difficulty then is making sure you have trainees that suit this training schedule and making sure you can still win on court

If you are concerned about competing for U21 you should get their advice and find out his chances of making it as you will be competing against other talent that started out with similar/higher skills. For NT level you have many many seasons to build him up to what they want, but do what you want to do first!

In terms of elastic effect (whatever size it is!) youll be working against it as OD leaves the other skills behind, but then itll be with you as you make the other skills catch up. Overall? Probably a teenyweeny elastic effect on training time!