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Even if this two teams put the player on TL for right price (f.e. 1M), they can arrange transfer for much higher price (f.e. 5M) as overpriced.

Like many of the "arguments" here this has nothing to do with my suggestion, it would be actually nice if you would understand what I am proposing here. You are talking about blatant cheating and money transfer between teams.
I think I have made my case here. It's all up to BB's to decide. Only they have the info to back my suggestion up or to discard it.

Like many of the "arguments" here this has nothing to do with my suggestion, it would be actually nice if you would understand what I am proposing here. You are talking about blatant cheating and money transfer between teams.

Not me, but you. I was only reacting on your message. So than I don't understand why you put this sentence to this forum if it's not your argument.

I think I have made my case here. It's all up to BB's to decide. Only they have the info to back my suggestion up or to discard it.

But maybe you should rename your suggestion. Because your original requirement sound for me "I don't want to see overpriced players at TL." And this is the issue, whether BB-staff agree or disagree with it. And if they agree there are different ways how to achieve this. Even if I hope they disagree.

Last edited by rwystyrk at 5/4/2010 10:57:28 AM

I'm going to explain this to you again...

Even if this two teams put the player on TL for right price (f.e. 1M), they can arrange transfer for much higher price (f.e. 5M) as overpriced.

I am talking about teams that list their player high. These players look for one bid. Usually their players do not get sold, but they keep them listed constantly. They would not win anything if they list at correct price and let their friend bid it up -> why? because if noone else bids on that player his friend just loses money and the point of getting the player price high get's lost.
So please do not try to change my suggestion into something that it is not. My suggestion is concentrated on these high listers only. Catching money transfer multimanagers and band of money transfer managers is a whole other matter and they have a pattern you can monitor and convict on. If you want you can create your own suggestion for their taxation or whatever.
If you still did not understand what this suggestion is about then drop me a bb-mail.

I am talking about teams that list their player high. These players look for one bid. Usually their players do not get sold, but they keep them listed constantly. They would not win anything if they list at correct price and let their friend bid it up -> why? because if noone else bids on that player his friend just loses money and the point of getting the player price high get's lost.

Im following this conversation and still think that tax for not-sold player isnt a good idea. However sounds reasonable to me if there would be aditional disadvantage for "constant listers". Something like if player is putted on TL more than 3 times in a month, his GS will drop down.

The main reason why not aditional financial penalty is for me still the same - managers which develop unusual players would be penalised just because they are waiting for someone who understand an demand for unusual skills. The ones who could understand that, are not only beyond these, which are tracking TL all day long...

I am talking about teams that list their player high. These players look for one bid. Usually their players do not get sold, but they keep them listed constantly. They would not win anything if they list at correct price and let their friend bid it up -> why? because if noone else bids on that player his friend just loses money and the point of getting the player price high get's lost.

Im following this conversation and still think that tax for not-sold player isnt a good idea. However sounds reasonable to me if there would be aditional disadvantage for "constant listers". Something like if player is putted on TL more than 3 times in a month, his GS will drop down.

The main reason why not aditional financial penalty is for me still the same - managers which develop unusual players would be penalised just because they are waiting for someone who understand an demand for unusual skills. The ones who could understand that, are not only beyond these, which are tracking TL all day long...

or he los 5% of his home game income ;) This strategy isn't for free today.

I know, thats why I understand current penalty as a way too much... even rationally - why should be fans upset by listing of any player, while they know that he wasnt sold? And player itself doesnt give a ... about it.

Those team are penalized by worse fan survey i.e. a bit worse income. Only one LA fails to see that and wants their blood.

Please, no other explanation needed as you totally didn't understand my last message and mixed two separated things together.
I would rather drop this thread out of the forum or drop some user out of this game than dropping anything into your mail :-D

Perhaps you should drop into an english lesson. I can see from your press release that you have skipped some :D

You can pay some lessons for me, you are welcome. It's not secret I'm neither native english speaker nor native estonian-english speaker.
Maybe then I will understand better your ideas which sounds me at moment as totally meaningless.

please refrain from personal attacking each other here guys.
this is a suggestions forum.
Not everyone will agree with the suggestions made, there is no need to try to win a 'battle' by going completely off-topic.

This being said I will give my personal meaning about why there should be no tax on putting up players for sale:
1) there is an automatic tax for players that don't get sold by means of their wage. Each week the player is not sold, some few k's of dollars exit the team.
2) I give you a clear case where putting up a player multiple times is possible:
player A is estimated at 2M0 to 2M3 when compared to a few other similar players. He is put up for 2M2 and the day after the text changes to, recent sold players have been sold for 1M5 to 1M8, but this player is probably better.
Given the skillset you decide he is worth the 2M2 as he was first estimated, and since he is better then the 1M8 the other players where estimated as high price, you still feel the 2M2 is right. Yet nobody seems to be needing your type of player and he doesn't get sold. After some attempts, you put him up for 1M9, and for several attempts he still isn't sold.
Is this because the asking price is too high? Not sure. might be, But I think chances are higher nobody realy needs this type, and will only buy for a price they can make profit on.
Now by putting him up for 1M5, he might get sold, and then the buyer puts him up for 2M and sells him a few weeks later because at that time there IS someone, or even 2 who realy care to put this player in their line-up.
Why should the original manager need to give the 0.5M to the other?
Why should he get punished for waiting for a manager who will buy the player because he realy wants to play him instead of looking for an investment?

Players that don't get sold cost wage. I think it's already a price big enough.

But should BB decide to tax unsold players, I hope they work with a small and fixed number, and not as a % of something.

:)