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From: Fresh24
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Date: 7/24/2012 10:19:09 PM
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I'd be interested to see if we can start organizing to have a more competitive team 5+ seasons down (which is when I hope Sammons would be a ~$300k Center with good secondaries... if we have a decent team). It'd be nice if someone can start doing some long-term planning as far as players (and it doesn't necessarily have to be the NT manager). It looks like we have a stable of elite 25y/o guards on the NT, but most of the NT forwards are old, and I only really see matthew bradshaw as a SF hopeful and Denny Hall as a PF hopeful. Are there any other really good forwards going to be around in 5 seasons? (That are ideally on good teams that would be able to afford them.) And having more than 1 center would be nice, as well as keeping all the guards with good managers.

Last edited by Fresh24 at 7/24/2012 10:20:22 PM

From: Bballin

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Date: 7/24/2012 10:54:48 PM
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This is something that would require long term planning and a lot of work/dedication. Building the perfect U21 and then the perfect NT would be difficult, but possible. People would need money to buy trainees to suit the needs, or luck to draft the player that suits the needs. People would need space fo training and the willingness to put training ahead of success in some instances. It can be done. 3 trainees per manager and 4 dedicated managers can have 12 players. If we got say 10 managers with high level trainers, high potential trainees and dedication to training, just imagine the type of U21 and NT we could build. I tihnk for this to occur we will also need co-operation and lots of discussion to figure everything out which would require people to register, check and post regularily on the offsite forum.

Speaking of forwards, we have Garvi who is 20, but only superstar potential. I am pretty sure Trotter from last season had superstar potential and a level 7 trainer and he was being trained as a SF. Worley is coming up, as is Arsenault and Lachance. The depth chart is on the offsite if someone registered.. ;) or checked :P

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Date: 7/24/2012 11:56:45 PM
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I actually would really like to take part in that project. Not really sure that Bradshaw can be a NT-caliber SF but I will do my best to put him in that position as inside-oriented SF. I think I can also announce here that I am looking for top-notch Canadian trainee (18-19yo) and great 22-24 year old player that just needs finishing touches to his training and would be able to start in Naismith.

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Date: 7/25/2012 1:09:44 AM
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maybe this is something we should start discussing and planning on the offsite. This wil probably need a season to plan at least. Figuring out the types of players we want, who is training what, when to start. Interesting idea. Anyone else think we should pursue this?

From: Fresh24

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Date: 7/25/2012 6:12:44 AM
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I made a brief attempt to get something going for a U21 season, but it was too hastey and the U21 is difficult because you need a lot more trainees involved just due to the possibility of injuries, etc. and ideally set up for back-to-back seasons, but I'd still be game for setting up for U21 too if we have enough teams. And instead of having a team take on 3 trainees, it'd be easier on teams to take on 1-2 trainees and still be competitive, although we'd need a couple more teams involved. We're going to need our teams with high salary NT players having large arenas and be in Div2/Naismith (or expect to be there a few seasons from now).

Yeah, I'll join the off-site and we can talk about this more.

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Date: 7/25/2012 7:40:21 AM
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I think a start would be recruiting Canadian owners to particiapate in the training process. Then helping them plan short term and long term goals for the players that they train.

Another thing I'd like to see is more owners that had great careers but then lose a bit of interest using their huge financial resources for training potential NT players. I know that there are at least a couple of guys like this that played Naismith in the past, and while they continue to log into the site in order to avoid going BOT, they're not really playing the game. It would be nice to see them at least focus on something like this.

Maybe I shouldn't have much of an opinion on this as I haven't been involved in the training of Canadian players since I joined the site but that will change in this off-season.

Last edited by Beener not Beanerz at 7/25/2012 7:44:48 AM

From: Bballin

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Date: 7/25/2012 8:31:22 AM
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I made a brief attempt to get something going for a U21 season


Yes I remember this, but as you said it wasn't planned out properly and no one was really aware of what was going on.

U21 is harder because you have a shorter time frame so nothing can go wrong if you want to be successful, but it is still possible.

Obviously just 1 or 2 trainees on teams would be preferred, but if the managers dont step up it may become necessary for someone to carry three :)

I think most of the teams on the offsite are in div II, Naismith or will be soon so thats no problem!

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Date: 7/25/2012 8:35:22 AM
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I think a start would be recruiting Canadian owners to particiapate in the training process. Then helping them plan short term and long term goals for the players that they train.


This is something that the scouts will be doing for the players they get.

Another thing I'd like to see is more owners that had great careers but then lose a bit of interest using their huge financial resources for training potential NT players. I know that there are at least a couple of guys like this that played Naismith in the past, and while they continue to log into the site in order to avoid going BOT, they're not really playing the game. It would be nice to see them at least focus on something like this.


The only teams like that currently are The Mogul, Mod-oeuftete and TigerUnderGlass. The Mogul doesnt log in enough. I dont even know if Mod-oeuftete reads the forum or BBmails and TigerUnderGlass doesnt log in enough and if he did would be more focused on promoting then anything else I think. So thats a tough one.

Maybe I shouldn't have much of an opinion on this as I haven't been involved in the training of Canadian players since I joined the site but that will change in this off-season.


And maybe the next if this plan works out? ;)

From: Fresh24

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Date: 7/25/2012 9:03:10 AM
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I made a brief attempt to get something going for a U21 season


Yes I remember this, but as you said it wasn't planned out properly and no one was really aware of what was going on.

It didn't turn out well, but I was able to match up a couple inexperienced managers with good trainees with mentors though, and encouraged a few players to sell their good trainees for quick cash which was in their best interest. I think it also got Sammons some early training when he was really being botched, which has helped me out quite a bit now that I have him after he's made some stops elsewhere.

From: Bballin

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Date: 7/25/2012 9:07:27 AM
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Sammons is definitely a lot better than i had anticipated at first. He is still behind in training though and will need to pop quick in order to catch up!

There were some smaller wins for sure, hopefully this time we will get a much larger win :)

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Date: 7/25/2012 10:22:36 AM
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I think a start would be recruiting Canadian owners to particiapate in the training process. Then helping them plan short term and long term goals for the players that they train.


This is something that the scouts will be doing for the players they get.


Obviously. I'm thinking more along the lines like starting a recruitment thread looking for Canadian owners that want to focus on training Canadian talent. Looking over their current talent and finding them better longer term prospects if necessary. Perhaps teaching the newer owners how to draft so that they corner the best prospects and make it less of a crapshoot.

For example, I just looked at our NT writer's team and he's not training a single player. (if he is, I apologize but he shouldn't be training anyone on his current roster). And there are several guys just like this in divisions 3 and 4 that could be training 1, 2 or even 3 future U21 prospects. I wonder how many other owners could be sent emails asking if they'd like to be involved in something like this? And of course the positive side effect to all of this is increasing the involvement in the Canadian community.

Last edited by Beener not Beanerz at 7/25/2012 10:24:05 AM

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