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Like who? The teams that have promoted up have of course added a lot of new players, I know Eugene changed some of his roster around, and of course Delta 9 has bought a ton of scrimmage fodder players and fired them over the past few months. But people staying in the NBBA and selling off their teams for profit and rebuilding for the next year with that cash? It's not happening, certainly not routinely, and definitely not profitably. And they sure as heck aren't looking for high skilled youth until they're tanking, since you can't play an 18 year old trainee in the NBBA regularly, nor can you in the stages of the Cup that they need to get to to keep their salaries afloat. -Hurley


Mr glass-^^^^^ Cop-Out answer... You know the deal that be, in the top level of play. I have expressed all those thing before. you use one 18yr old 5/5 or 5/4 in the nbba. That can work and its what they are doing. Don't give me the song and dance, its a cop out.


And the main examples of that are players taking less money to go play for a championship contender, right? So the BB equivalent would be that a guy who has a 100k salary per week would ask you to pay that amount (or, heck, even more because he's going so far down the league structure) but he'd decide to take 25k/week to get onto the roster of the leaders in the NBBA. I don't want to put words into your mouth, especially knowing how they get abused while in there, but you can't seriously think that is a good idea -Hurley


Mr glass -^^ Again this is fantasy heme on your behalf and un important to Bb,we don't do/have any trading here so what to discuss.?? But ok, i'll play along once more to inform you with my small opinion which not BB gospel just my opinion, Didn't LeBron James take less to join the heat in the nba, just to name few who have done it. Did he not get a ring with lessor pay??. A lot of player take less to win a ring.. IN BB terms it foolish to discuss how much you can pay that's mandatory set. Because you didn't train you can not afford. How is that fair??. My point is for BB why restrict a team from winning a championship, Which is what the game is about in one form of it..

Because he/she cant afford it to start is a cop-answer. Its a mangers games.. let them find a way to do it. Let them cut cost to do it. I have done it ,so have many other before me., its not hard to make money on BB period. If there so much money on the game, why is market struggling to sell players because of cost to afford.? The players got more expensive if asked me. why restrict because yu haven't trained you cant afford. That is wrong and unfair..

If the manager does arena in the right fashion and wins..\Why can he afford a player with Nbba talent.? hmm? if he has the money in the bank to hold him let him do it. it take tactics and many factors to win in BB not buying a team of kobe's

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 7/30/2014 4:25:46 PM

Could you show who can buy that good under 100,000 if the weekly wage is not pushing 30k-50+ a week .
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I bought a 200-250k player why cant the next man, timeline should not matter in that. If they want the help let him/her choose. Which is fair.

There are two different amounts. You never bought a player with 200-250k wages, and you could not do so now. You have paid 200-250k to purchase players with lower wages, however. You could do that again today. A new player could do that as well. There's no limit whatsoever on the actual transfer fee that you pay, as long as that bid doesn't run afoul of the overbidding rules or other things that are against the rules specifically. What a new player can't do is make a bid of $1000 on a "bargain" player on a NT with a $235k salary, because that salary will bankrupt him. People are free to make plenty of mistakes, but the restricted bidding is there to prevent only massive fatal mistakes that, sadly, were very common.

The easiest way to understand it is that you're either allowed to bid on a player or not bid on a player, based on your world rank. If you can't bid on a player, it's because his weekly salary is way too high for your current position in the game. If you can bid on him, you can bid as much as you want as long as it's not falling into the range of cheating.

None of that matter because Nt players are dime a dozen. world rank should never be why you cant a buy a good player or if have trained a million BB men should never be the reason, why you can/cant afford better players... That's is unfair. because the simple facts, The past teams were not training. Now ranked 1-50. How much money do you think they have.?


No matter how you slice it, its unfair. Do you give 2 men guns in a shoot out, full powered weapons? Or do you give one a silencer and other a full powered weapon.. Which weapon do you think is going to hit harder. No matter how I slice it ,its a unfair fight. How many players did the top team in Nbba train, We all know a 18 yr Is no good unless he dynamic?? . They have many ,many titles.. Go look at their transfer sheets. They didn't train those players they bought them. What they are ranked hasn't changed much, it meant nothing in the past but now it does.!!


What BB is selling is a catch 22. Simple and plain.

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 7/30/2014 4:42:52 PM

Relax, I think only teams in league IV cant buy 200k salary men. Anyone with semi-decent world ranking can buy whatever player they want. Hell, for me the limit is freaking 200,000,000. Its just there so in a first 4 weeks you dont buy 300k salary useless, inefficent player. Doesnt restrict you in any way, unless you want to commit quite a spectacular seppuku and be done with the game after 2 weeks.

And your arguments are baout as unorganized and hard to comprehend as it gets. English is my 2nd language but I thought I am pretty decent at it. You sir proved me wrong. Also, all the tax does is preventing a team buying 1 million slary roster in league III just for playoffs. It doesnt restrict users in any other way. And of course you can still do that, it just costs you a bit more so dont know what is all the fuss about. Did it somehow affect you in the game? I seriously doubt it

I hope the features will help because they are the best yet.
I really think that we will jump back into large numbers once
old managers from the past see that Utopia now exists.

to EBM-Perpete

i shared BB to 4 of my officemates and they are really interested to join and were asking me a lot of questions on how they can be a part of BB, but i was a bit apprehensive of explaining to them how to join since we all use the SAME WIFI at work ( they dont have any home wifi) and do all internet surfing at the office.

i use BB in the office using the office wifi, if i let them in for BB using the same office wifi that my reflect that i could have multiple accounts and i might get banned in BB, which i am not willing to risk.

now if a BB app is created , its still the same problem as here in the philippines not all are subscribe in our telcos and still connect to free wifi, most commonly in our own offices or coffee shops.

As a former user that came back recently, I think one of the biggest problems with BB is the first few days.

Let's say I'm a completely new manager. I see this rather interesting game and my interests are peaked. I decide to sign up and wait, I can't play right away! I have to wait for my team to be approved. So I wait a while (I don't remember how long, but I think it was within the same hour) and I get my team. I start to familiarize myself with the game and make adjustments and then it becomes apparent that I can't buy any players off the market for the first three days. The problem is, the very first thing any coach should do is begin assembling his team and collecting talent. Waiting three days is ridiculous and I imagine a ton of managers just call it quits right there and then.

Now, obviously there are reasons why the above happens:

1. To prevent any type of fraud from occurring where a new team is owned by a current user and that user sells a player on his main team to the new team for a value way beyond his market price.

2. Maybe it allows the new user to explore a little bit and understand the game before jumping straight into the market.

I think the above two reasons are valid, but there has to be a better solution than the one currently in place. We can't afford new users to be in a restricted state when they are in the peak of their interest in the game!

Does anybody have any feedback about whether this problem is as significant as I make it out to be or a possible solution to this problem?

Furthermore, I think the game's learning curve can be much more friendly to new users. BB tries to oversimplify the game by creating a "short menu" and simplified tactics in the Set-Your-Lineup page. I think these are inefficient means of allowing the player to truly understand what's going on.

Ideally, all new users would read the game manual in its entirety. This is a bit much to ask new players though. Instead, I think a series of concise videos with voice, perhaps created by users, is a good way of introducing the main aspects of the game. I think there should be one 2-minute video with a brief overview of the whole game and then specific videos for each aspect. For example, let's say I'm a new manager, the very first few times that I click on "Roster", there should be a video on top (perhaps give some kind of award for playing the video too) that explains what I'm seeing and what different skills mean. When I click on Weekly Stats, the video will explain the importance of gameshape, and how you can track training minutes using this page.

As a former user currently in DV, you have no idea how many users I see who just plain don't know what they're doing and don't improve. I can't help but sympathize with them when almost all of them go inactive because their teams suck and I wouldn't want to be in a game where I was losing and didn't know how to get better.

Now, many of you have suggested a mentoring program. I think this is a great step but the problem is getting enough people to reach out to new users and having new users want that type of relationship. I think it's much easier to just have the game manual gradually unfold in front of them as they explore new features.

Last call.

This thread is not "Mr Glass against the world", we know that could last for days and I doubt the thread creator would enjoy that. It's funny, but it's also a first class burial for threads.

Anything not directly related with what was discussed before Mr Glass came on board will be deleted, starting now.

No, I don't. Thanks, EGM-Perpete. I believe strongly in peeps voicing their opinions but, as you pointed out, this was off topic.

@burninator

I think a series of concise videos with voice, perhaps created by users, is a good way of introducing the main aspects of the game. I think there should be one 2-minute video with a brief overview of the whole game and then specific videos for each aspect. For example, let's say I'm a new manager, the very first few times that I click on "Roster", there should be a video on top (perhaps give some kind of award for playing the video too) that explains what I'm seeing and what different skills mean. When I click on Weekly Stats, the video will explain the importance of gameshape, and how you can track training minutes using this page.

+1 Great idea. Given males (no offense to those few ladies playing the game) are more visual, this would likely show new users what to do and what to expect. Nice.