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From: whitewind

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Date: 6/12/2013 8:47:22 AM
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On the second point: Yes, that kind of advice IS the role of the U21 Manager...but I'm NOT the U21 NT manager. So what are you saying? that I should have commented on players even though it wasn't my place to?


No, but you are a candidate stating that you are not looking to get the offsite forum back to a high standard. And im a voter saying I want the skills of players revitalised and accessible for all aussie trainees to see, use, compare and learn using. And if you are elected, my 20yr old trainee may still not get the training advice needed and may also not get the best possible training. No personal attacks there, just expressing my concern for how new trainers are getting missed currently and that a problem exists :)



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Actually buddy, that's probably the only point that will ever be mentionned in this forum and that I totally agree with. The manager should post the skills of the player so as to give a template to other managers.

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I'm liking your style!

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haha thanks mate I appreciate

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Date: 6/12/2013 9:00:54 AM
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actually koop, that random copy-past was related to my personnal life so I guess it's not off topic? it could be a way to "introduce myself"?

From: Mr J
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Date: 6/12/2013 9:09:45 AM
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Results of the '5 Federations POLL' are worth noting here:

Of the 16 people who have voted, 14 believe we need a new Federation! Surely this ends the debate about the revitalisation of the offsite forum!?

Importantly, 9 of those 14 believe it needs to contain both the U21 NT and the NT. So, I must concede that a new federation will have both if I am elected.

@whitewind...the player info you speak of will be available in the new federation/forum. Of course, the problem will be with those who have supporter and those who don't in terms of accessing it. However, given that 14 of 16 want a federation means that 14 of 16 know supporter will be a must in order to access it.


From: Mr J

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Actually buddy, that's probably the only point that will ever be mentionned in this forum and that I totally agree with. The manager should post the skills of the player so as to give a template to other managers.


This is what I said would be included in the forum!

From: Mickyster

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Date: 6/12/2013 9:12:45 AM
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So how do you get more people other then the about 60 or 70 people with supporter involved with the NT sides?
This is the issue from me on the topic. To be effective internationally we need more people active in training players for the NT sides and I fail to see how this can be done if someone needs to be a supporter before they can get access to the federation and all the info there.
I am a fan of federations. Just think it is a mistake to make it the major tool for the NT sides.

From: Mickyster

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Date: 6/12/2013 9:15:10 AM
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16 votes is not the enough to base it on IMO. those who voted I would assume are the more active and mostly have supporter.

Would of been keen to see use an existing federation for it as a option.

From: akuma
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Date: 6/12/2013 9:15:54 AM
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I believe a great leader needs three qualities:

1. Passion
2. Determination
3. Vision

Some would argue that you would need the ability to understand skills, tactics, etc etc, but really, that kind of stuff can be discussed as part of a committee of head coach/assistant coaches/australian community. That's the whole idea of having a forum/federation.

Mr Green, I believe you have all the above qualities. You have the vision to make big changes to how the U21 is run, heck, even the aussie BB community in general. And I believe you have the passion and determination to see it through. So you'll be getting my vote. Best of luck.

(even though you backed Sid to win in our S23 Finals match!!! jk :)


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Date: 6/12/2013 9:17:04 AM
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Need I refer you to the election rules? As stated in (242991.1)
"These rules may seem a bit harsh, but they're intended to make the elections run smoothly and make sure things don't get out of hand."

The gibberish you copy and pasted was completely off-topic. If you feel that the other candidate's speeches were too "long" or too "off-topic" then that is up to your own judgment. You don't have to read it. But the act you just pulled to put your point across was uncalled for.

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