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From: demars

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Date: 11/23/2025 10:21:31 AM
Elan Demars
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For all those ties, I think we should rank them :
- FIRST- Win/Loss vs the tied teams
- IF 2/more teams are tied THEN Use Point Difference
- IF PA are equal, THEN Best Offense wins


(with 4 teams it's impossible that the 4 have the same record vs the 3 others. Maybe 3 have 2-1 record, but the last has 0-3).

From: Wagner

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Date: 11/23/2025 10:32:40 AM
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For all those ties, I think we should rank them :
- FIRST- Win/Loss vs the tied teams
- IF 2/more teams are tied THEN Use Point Difference
- IF PA are equal, THEN Best Offense wins


(with 4 teams it's impossible that the 4 have the same record vs the 3 others. Maybe 3 have 2-1 record, but the last has 0-3).

So in your proposition point differential would be preferred over points allowed, thank you for your opinion demars!

On your third most important comparison method ("- IF PA are equal, THEN Best Offense wins"), with PA did you mean "points allowed"?

(So in other words, if point differential would be tied, I understood you'd prefer to rank teams higher that have allowed least points, and if that's tied too, at last option team that has scored more points would be ranked higher)?

Anyone else has thoughts on this?

From: demars

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Date: 11/23/2025 12:06:08 PM
Elan Demars
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PA (in my mind) was for Points Differential (sorry for the mistake !)

From: LennuK.

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Date: 11/24/2025 3:05:04 AM
BC Eos
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I don't really have a preference regarding this matter. I could work with either PD, PF or PA as the second parameter to decide on ties. PD seems to be most generally used one across different sports, so there would be nothing wrong about using this. Though, if we would like to follow another path, then I would be up to reward the best defense in these situations too!

From: WiMaOl

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Date: 11/24/2025 7:27:05 AM
WiMaOlCa
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the same as Demars, I prefer his proposal rather than only using point difference

From: Wagner

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Date: 11/24/2025 7:50:53 AM
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PA (in my mind) was for Points Differential (sorry for the mistake !)

No worries, thanks for correction.

From: Wagner

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Date: 11/24/2025 7:54:48 AM
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the same as Demars, I prefer his proposal rather than only using point difference

I see. It's good to have a layer of comparison methods that step in a place if needed, and preferably have order of them pre-determined.
Yes, it's unlikely 2 teams wouid have same point differential, but it could theoretically happen, especially in a relatively even league like HGL (at least even between teams fighting for same positions).

From: Wagner

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Date: 11/24/2025 7:59:26 AM
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I don't really have a preference regarding this matter. I could work with either PD, PF or PA as the second parameter to decide on ties. PD seems to be most generally used one across different sports, so there would be nothing wrong about using this. Though, if we would like to follow another path, then I would be up to reward the best defense in these situations too!

Thanks for your opinion, LennuK., and I'm glad to hear you´re open to different ways of handling this situation!
Yes, PD is mostly used around real leagues in my experience/understanding as well. And what's one positive side of it, current way of handling things (league table calculations) do give a direct indication of this without making any additional calculations.
(Yes, if the team stats would be made available on a regular basis, that would also "automatically" provide us PA and PF valiues, but for instance now I'm running late in creating such stats, so PD is something that's already always "automatically" available).