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Thanks Brooksy, I'm not trying to offend anyone, just when there's nothing said at all about it, and I request help doing the totals 2 weeks ago or whatever its been now and hear nothing, what else am I to think?

im happy doing the actually votes, its kinda fun.
if i had more time i would put more (re: SOME) detail into each game, but as it is I do the best I can.... OK OK OK back to business.

I actually read them too, although I knew more of the South teams last season.

Ok, I can address this quite simply.
I'm not sure if there are some ACTUAL reals and mandates (haha man dates) or whatever about how all this is REALLY meant to work, but in MY OPINION.
the MVP votes go in order from 3 2 1 for the best individual player on the court.
Yes Iwen played Patient Offence, and noone else on his team did anything, HOWEVER.
C Young Ill still scored a shit tin of points at a very good percentage, 8-17 3ptrs. i mean come on.
in 48 minutes he made 1 foul and 1 turn over

also to use BB mechanics or whatever to assist my decision, he was the highest rated player on the court with a 12.0

I can see where you are coming from, however i've always been strongly against people giving the best player from the WINNING TEAM the 3 points as this is an individual award, (MVP not MVT).
so at what point do I stop awarding this kind of behavior? when i don't believe the best player on the losing team is the best player on the court.
its not about the margain, its about the individual players.
there was another game, i think it was against me where the other guy had a player that scored heaps, but was rubbish and got a 5.0 game rating and i flogged them.
so if you beat Iwen by 200 points and C Young Ill still scored 48 points with those %'s and was the highest rated player on the court, i'd still probably give it to him... (ok maybe not by 200 points coz that would mean someone on your team would have scored tonnes, but you get my point right)

anyways i think im ranting and maybe losing the point....

if you have further questions just mail them to Rad Ranga, care of Jesus... 349 i'm exhausted from doing too many weights Avenue.

yeah i dont mind doing them either they are quite fun. I just havent had time lately on the weekend to di them and by monday youve already done thedm most times

Well I haven't really had this issue. Most of the time the best player is from the winning team. Looking at the stats is the easy part. However since there's no defensive player of the year award, I also take into consideration of defence in deciding votes. I look back at play by play to see who's guarding whom. Of course zones make it more difficult.

Also if the game is a blow out I eliminate the garbage quarters in deciding the votes. On the other hand if the game is a close one and there's several players fighting for votes then I put more emphasis on players who did well late in the game.

A good example in the West is Underwood from Team Lordy. He's playing patient so Underwood has been jacking up majority of the shots but because most have been in garbage time and his shooting percentage has been low which in fact is costing his team wins. So is he really the most valuable player or just a ball hog?

I only have one problem with this. And that's the manipulation of votes.

If I so chose, following your guidelines; I could play all of my scrubs and have my best player play at a position I know the opposing team is weak in defensively with a patient offense and get 3 votes each time?

I only have one problem with this. And that's the manipulation of votes.

If I so chose, following your guidelines; I could play all of my scrubs and have my best player play at a position I know the opposing team is weak in defensively with a patient offense and get 3 votes each time?

Who would actually do that?

At the end of the day, it's just one person's opinion vs another person's opinion... and it is just a game. :)

Depends mate, if he scores the most and just so happens to seem like the best player also.. then yeh.

Well Ranga hypothetically suggested an extreme case in where he would still give said person the 3 votes so I hypothetically suggested an extreme of my own. Not saying anyone would do that, just exploring possibilities.

In any case I'm satisfied with our discussion so we can move on

my game i used it against you was i thought i could sneak the win doing it with patient and sg at centre knowing full well it would make him take full votes but i never thought of mvp when i did it. So if most people to do as a tactic i guess its okay but someone would start to notice if they use it for mvps and would mostly stop giving them the full votes even if they score heaps. I know i would

I think WB made one important point and I actually made the same decision about a player just today when I was doing the East votes. There was a player on the losing team who had by far the high score in the game but his shooting was something like 12/36 so even though he had 30 PTS and the next best was around 20 I gave him no votes at all because it was all of his misses that probably cost his team the game. I am really a sucker for guys who hit at a high percentage and often give guys who pop up and hit a few shots at a high percentage votes.