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It better have a cool flag and I don't mean one that has automatic weapons on it like the Mozambique.

Something like Albania with the Eagles fighting each other would be cool.

2. As some guys already pointed out, it's not about money, although we appreciate the extra income. We want the Utopia country to be the most competitive place in BB. Giving free teams to all Supporters would counter that. Also, Supporters get the Supporter package on their second team for free, for the duration of the package.

So, i can think bad in that manner:

BB's appreciate extra income so they plan this strategy.

-Launch a poll asking if supporters can have 2nd team
-with poll open, and no decision taken, they publicized the "supporter for 10$ promotion" (it will become 10SP from now) with draftstreet, so they can have more income and can use the "2nd team effect (2TE)" to increase supporters.
-still with poll open, nearly two weeks before the end of 10SP, Marin take decision to have 2nd team. Not yet speaking about money. So another 10SP new supporters boost.
-10SP ends on 28th february, friday. +24/48h to have new supporters. Sunday. Monday as first business/working day to close all and then, magically, after all supporter promotion---> 2nd team rules posted and it costs 10$ per year.

Coincidence?

At least, in economic way, BB's optimize income.
But, as supporter, i think i'm not so important for the game, because i've to pay the same of every user, despite everyone of the BB's is continuing to thanks my for my "support" and he's remembering me, in every sentence, that i'm an elite.
But in a lot of sentence, the word "elite" is inflated, because elite are also (or more, because their elite status with 10$ is the same of mine with 40$) the teams which play in Supporterland.

Dear BB's and other staff member, i will continue to play to the game, but, as user, as people and as supporter,

I feel cheated

Loved the new feature and will play it anyway but I think closed market would be a lot more on the best manager against the best manager aspect of Utopia.

New market means making the best out of the initial roster, planning the future of the franchise, developing players becoming a crucial part of sucess on the early seasons. For me those are the aspects that tell who are the best managers among all.

Old market means a lot of managers buying old players and going all-in towards divison I. Period. They can think about the future after being one of the 16 first division I, with advantage in revenue against the rest.

For me Utopia can be a lot more than just assembling cheaper old players with some good skills. It can be cut-throat competition since the very first week, where every single skill improved in training could be decisive on the future of the franchise.

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And I forgot mentioning the draft. In a market with only one country players will give the draft a whole other meaning. Just like the NBA, drafting the right players will also become crucial to a franchise future. Nowadays in the low tier divisions, in my opinion, it's way more cheaper going into the market for new players than spending a lot of money on draft points. But in a closed market making the best decision with less draft points is a factor that I would say it's important in deciding who's the best manager in BB.

Last edited by Rafa Silva at 3/5/2014 2:42:54 PM

"Another possible problem would be that the price of buying advanced trainers would at least double. "

For me that would be the beauty in Utopia. The same game, the same engine, the same features but under completely different circumstances. Everybody would be out of their comfort zones and the ability to apply everything we learned playing BB so far into a new environment is what going to say who's the best manager.

There is a lot of luck involved Rafa.

If you end up with an old starting roster, you are going to have to buy trainees. However, you will not have money to buy trainees.

Basically, it will come down to who got the best lot of 18 year old when the team was created.

I'm feeling that if anything day-trading and massive inflow's of cash derived from making a quick buck should be monitored more closely in Utopia.

However, I don't think it makes much sense to force every team to just pump money into the arena because there is simply no value on the market.

Perhaps some trading rules should be enacted for the first few seasons. Such as the player must play on the team 10 weeks before he can be sold. This will make the market harder to cash out on. But not eliminate the idea of buying players.

I see, couldn’t the new rosters be semi randomized? Every roster starting with at least 3 trainees or something? Or, since it’s a newborn “country”, all players starting with 20 years or less?

For me Utopia should be all about skill and less about luck (although luck will always be involved). Don’t get me wrong, of course there’s skill in making the best out of the current market but in a new market I feel the importance of all others aspects of BB would be maximized.

- Edit-

Saw this on another thread posted by EGM-Perpete:

"If that was a separate server, that would mean several things.

At the start, all the players would be shitty. After 4 seasons, the best players would be as good as U21 players. After 8 to 10 seasons, the players would start to be relatively good.

The pool of players to buy for would be small, really small. As of now, when you need a player, you have 20.000+ teams to get that players from. In a closed server, that would 10 times less at best. Expect some waiting list to get the player you want.

The pool of teams to sell to? Same, a lot thinner than now.

What that would do to the market in that Utopia server ? It would be slower than the actual one and probably a lot more bumpy."

For me that's exactly the awesomeness in closed market for Utopia. What’s bad in the current world isn’t necessarily bad in Utopia. There are no references anymore, as the closed market would never get near the shape of the current market. The players on the market would be rarer but not necessarily over expensive because nobody would have the money to buy them. Utopia don’t have to play by the same references of the current game.

Last edited by Rafa Silva at 3/5/2014 3:54:43 PM

depending on the income level of the individual person in their home nation supporter seems cheap/expensive. For people with a modest income in a lower cost of living country cost of 1year supporter+10bucks starts to get rather spendy.

perhaps they should 'throw-in' the OPTION to get a free 2nd team in the new BB-international (I am thinking it should be this, not some fake Utopia country) for people who buy supporter 1 year at a time or better. This way for people who really don't have much money...BB doesn'T suddenly get that expensive if they want to participate in this new feature.

Especially for people who have been paying supporter for like 2 or 3 years now. For them to suddnely have their amount to contribute by $10 bucks wilst a bunch of random dudes who maybe never paid supporter only need to drop $10 on it total.

Really I understand opening the door on this for just $10 to anyone is a smart move. I can see the supporter argument out there that they want this 2nd team for free.