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157772.89 in reply to 157772.81
Date: 10/15/2010 3:38:12 PM
MightyMice
III.3
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CrazyCrabs
At the speed that you are developing I firmly believe MBBA would be a very competitive league (not that it is not right now).


not to seem negative, but my understanding is that training is still suboptimal, not being widely monorole, neither in MBBA nor in II/III series. The symptoms is the level of 21 yrs old players. May be wrong, as being a symptom, but likely.

If II/III push hard on training, MBBA will become far more competitive, otherwise promoted teams would defeat incumbent ones

at this moment, first week matches evaluation are similar to low-II/high III in Italy, just to give you a reference point, where incomes are far lower and is more difficult to manage growth.

This is just to stimulate all of you: look at most compettiive countries, aim to their levels. Challenges accelerate growth.

And I love reading about people who aim high as you.

From: -CS

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157772.90 in reply to 157772.86
Date: 10/15/2010 8:41:04 PM
GinaKia
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Evan, welcome to BB forum, any question can ask here, a lot of expert will guide you in correct way..lolz

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157772.91 in reply to 157772.89
Date: 10/15/2010 8:52:33 PM
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It will take time and lots of efforts for teams in Div II to be competitive when these teams come up to MBBA. I reckon in another couple of seasons the promoted teams from div II will be starting MBBA on equal or near equal footing. Just to take a comparison with Hattrick Malaysia. The teams in div II are mostly on equal footing with the Liga teams so competition is fierce. Personally I would like none other than some newly promoted teams from div II to challenge for MBBA in their first season up.

The only way for the div II teams to be competitive is to remain faithful to their training regime and to learn the game well. Financially, the MBBA teams are at an advantage with their bigger arenas. I am looking at ways on how to narrow the divide in competitiveness between MBBA and div II teams. Of course we have a notable team that did very well and has been doing well since coming up to MBBA a few seasons back....Kwaiwah. Most other teams have come up, only to drop back after one season in MBBA. Perhaps Kwaiwah has a blueprint that he can share with the newly promoted teams as well as other aspirants on "from survival to contention in MBBA".

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157772.92 in reply to 157772.91
Date: 10/15/2010 10:51:37 PM
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I'm pretty sure the blue print will say 'CT Spaz' D:

jokes aside... its hard for any Div II team to keep up with MABBA... quite a number of them have played from season 3... and most of the more than 5/6 seasons..

the managers in Div II don't stay long enough or like you both suggest have a strong training program...

We'll see how this goes as we seem to have picked up some nice new active managers like Evan, Vandar and Syakir :P

From: Evanporez

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157772.93 in reply to 157772.90
Date: 10/16/2010 12:18:23 AM
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Evan, welcome to BB forum, any question can ask here, a lot of expert will guide you in correct way..lolz


Wrong way also i dont mind...because its normaly the faster way

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157772.94 in reply to 157772.92
Date: 10/16/2010 2:11:44 AM
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Very welcome to have all the new managers becoming active here.

I might be able to share some experience to you. In fact i joined BB quite late (still already abt 5-6 seasons i guess) but i faced the same problem to break into MBBA teams, if you see my team history, i have been gone up and down from DivII to MBBA quite a few times.

I do not want you all to be afraid of coming to MBBA, there are some benefits here, for example, i managed to get 1mil every time im promoted, it helps me to strengthen my team and build bigger arena (thyis is very important). Secondly, it helps me to discover how my team is compared to MBBA team, it help me to see where my weakness and think how i can match theirs. So, i believe it could help you all in general, do not be afraid to be promoted here. But remember do not get up set if lost every games.

A strong training programme and a good planning for arena is very very important for your team right now. Seek for advices from experts here, they are very generous to share.

Good luck to all of you. Cheers.

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157772.95 in reply to 157772.91
Date: 10/16/2010 4:56:27 AM
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Perhaps Kwaiwah has a blueprint that he can share with the newly promoted teams as well as other aspirants on "from survival to contention in MBBA".


Hmm... not sure what you mean by blueprint but I can share what I did for my team.
My team's story is actually 50% luck and 50% strategy.

Luck portion
Lucky Start: Started with 2 very good inside trainees (19yo MVP and 18yo AllStar).
First Season (7) @ Div III.2: Started in div III = guaranteed for next season $500K promotion bonus and better draft pick (My third trainee)
Second Season (8)@ Div II.3 : Nobody from MBBA got relegated to my division (Div II.3) as one of them became bot (Slampunks)
Third Season (9) @ MBBA: Boombastic became bot and the game engine was biased towards inside based teams. We can basically field inside player for C, PF and SF and have good results. (Note: The game engine has already been changed and this is no longer valid)

Strategy portion
First season (7):
Focus only on training 2 trainees on single position
Strengthening other positions with veterans @$20K bidding and below for each player
Be careful of my finances and getting only Lvl 4 trainer with Lvl 2 Doctor and PR.

Second Season (8):
Used $500K promotion bonus to get 3 more inside trainees and trained 6 trainees by fielding only 8 players into each game. To get the 3 trainees I had to settle for Star potential as there was no way I could get a 3 good trainees at AllStar potential for $500K. This way I don't have wasted training minutes when training rebound which trains C and PF.
Spent the whole season increasing my arena size to prepare for MBBA
Maintained my lvl 4 trainer and lvl 2 Doctor and PR

Third Season (9): The hardest season for my team
1. Knowing that my team's weakness was on the outside I spent my promotion bonus to get myself an outside player.
2. Being in MBBA I knew I had slim chance to survive in MBBA so I went on to scout all 15 other teams in MBBA and determined which teams I have a chance to win (Normal or CT) and which ones I have no chance to win (TIE). At the beginning of the season I already roughly determined which games I should TIE, Normal or CT. From here I managed to upset a few games
3. Continue to train on my 6 trainees because every training week is precious and I need to make the most out of it.
4. Continued to build up on my arena size because MBBA can easily fill up an arena size up to 15K
5. Changed my staff to be Lvl 5 trainer and Lvl 4 doctor and Lvl 3 PR. I didn't want to spend too much on PR as I was still selling out my arena throughout the season.

The rest as they say is history.

From: KwaiWah

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157772.96 in reply to 157772.95
Date: 10/16/2010 5:00:21 AM
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But I guess a few key things I would like to highlight:

1. Training: Training is really the heart of BB. BB is basically about improving your team at a rate higher than other teams. If you improve at the same rate as other teams then you will be stuck at whatever position you are at. If you improve slower then definitely you will become weaker despite training your team (This applies to teams trying to train players age 25 and above or players already reaching their potential soft cap). So train at a higher rate than other teams. To me, this means either training 3 or 6 players which are within their potential cap. Training less will mean improving at a slower rate.

2. Managing your finances: You can also improve your team by getting players from the transfer list. So ensuring you get the most from your arena and spending as little as possible on staff and players is critical to save money either to strengthen your weak point or to buy the trainee required to max out your training minutes.

3. Pick your fights. Decide upfront what your team objective is for the season. Either to win the play-offs, to get into play-offs, to avoid relegation or even to be in position 7 or 8 or to win the tournament. Depending on your objective, you should then assess the games for your whole season how you should play it. Planning upfront can really make a difference.

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157772.97 in reply to 157772.91
Date: 10/16/2010 5:04:12 AM
MightyMice
III.3
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Second Team:
CrazyCrabs
The only way for the div II teams to be competitive is to remain faithful to their training regime and to learn the game well. Financially, the MBBA teams are at an advantage with their bigger arenas.


Agree. And training must be very intensive and very well shaped. In MBBA you have more merchandising, arena incomes and TV contracts. Just climbing from III to II I added about 80K$ of weekly incomes this season.

Training is the key: a training program, spanning across 3 seasons about main objectives, with focused execution one season at time (to be then flexible according to evolution of team, opponents, players) What I still see is that training is suboptimal - but this is my external opinion.

About blueprint, I read Kwaiwah with interest: it is not much different than mine, but with some key changes depending on local situation. Just at the begining, when promoted one season earlier in IV, I had to fight to survive like this season, so changied all my programs to increase chances Or you could face a fierce opponent arrived from upwards or downwards. You can get others' blueprints just as source of inspiration - and a good series of lessons learned.