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I think most teams are screwed with their LIs against this guy and for that reason, yes he would atleast help significantly his team in a major tournament in BB.
rubbercube

The problem here is that you can't stop LI beacuse 2-3 defense DON'T WORK,not because you need to train SB who is a waste of money.
This is a better sum,imho

Instead of searching solutions with the current situation we have on BB, you prefer complain. I prefer the red's approach, that's why I give him +1 :)

In the current situation of BB some tactics,offensive and defensive,don't work.It's not compainin,it's just the truth

Never had problems with playing a 2-3, and I like shotblocking..

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2-3 DONT WORK because no one trains SB, trust me. Managers much smarter than I have concluded this, I am just relaying what I know to be true. Try to break out of the prevailing opinion from many many seasons ago, and try to apply it to what other people are doing. This game should and is about competing against your opponents, so in my mind the only thing that is a waste of money is something you dont need to beat your opponents. That said, if you are losing to LI, you need to train to beat that.

Who are them,exactly?

I know people always say well 2-3 sucks compared to 3-2. Think for a second. It is immensely harder to make a 3pt shot than to make a layup, so obviously a 3-2 zone is going to work better in principle than a 2-3 zone. People are so hung up on comparing totally different defenses that are used against totally different offenses as if they need to be equal or something. They dont, they arent, and they wont be.

The game of the Holland manager expalins that with a similar evaluation between attack and defense,his adversary shot 47%,and if we take out 3-pointers that are penalized because of LI(another stupid thing,if you take a 3-pointer with an inside tactic it should be a forced shot because time is running out or a shot with high percentage because your player is SO free that he can easily score,such low percentages from 3 with a LI are unacceptable),they shot more than 50%.That's a lot if you consider that 2-3 should be the best defense available.How much should a LI shot,60%?

I got nothing else to say though. If you want to stop LI, go SB + ID. OD also helps, a lot.

Thank,you,Mr.Obvious.We all know that ID+SB+OD stops LI,but at what cost?What is the salary/performance ratio of those skills?The salary/performance ratio of SB is terrible,comparable only to rebound for guards

With that outside shooting and outside defence I guess I deserved to lose.

With that outside shooting and outside defence I guess I deserved to lose.

The problem isn't your lose,it's your adversary shooting over 50% inside the 3-pt arch with you playing virtually the best inside defence available

3)At whatever cost you want to make it. If you are losing to LI teams, then I would argue it actually is quite a gain if you are able to include SB and win. Every big man you have doesnt need to be able to rebound score and defend at 15+, they just dont. Make a sacrifice on one guy to gain SB, and sacrifice SB on another guy to gain something else. If you think SB is not worth it salary wise, then find another way to beat LI.


You also seem to be continually asking for some set salary/performance ratio you need to be able to train a certain skill or something. Stop thinking about this stuff in absolute terms, and start thinking about it in terms relative to your league mates, and it becomes painfully obvious what you need to train to be successful.

I ALWAYS have to think in absolute terms,because to be a smart manager I have to have the players with the lowest possible and the highest performance possible,and I have to obtain players with skills that has a good value when I want to sell these players to make my team younger

I ALWAYS have to think in absolute terms,because to be a smart manager I have to have the players with the lowest possible and the highest performance possible,and I have to obtain players with skills that has a good value when I want to sell these players to make my team younger

More on the 2nd point, 2-3 should 100% NOT be the best defense available to stop a LI. M2M is always and will always be better, same when comparing 3-2 and M2M against outside offenses, M2M is better.

On the 2nd point,2-3 HAD to be the best defense to stop inside tactics,or it just wouldn't have sense to have it as option,because if M2M can stop LI better than 2-3,then I'll never chose 2-3 for any game(as it yet happen in the reality

I also dont know how much SB on guards stops driving shots in a M2M....I just know SB on your SF-C helps stop them in a 2-3.

SB on guards doesn't cost anything in terms of salary,I prefer to have SB on my guards - when SB can have a little effect at 0 cost- rather than on my big mans,where reaises by a HUGE amount of money their salaries

My assumption is that if you are M2M, then whoever is guarding the driving player likely needs to have some SB, but that probably the center still has a larger impact than any other position.

And again, my main point in all of this is that we know how to stop LI, but people continue to refuse to do it because they dont think it is cost effective. That might be true, but stop complaining already when you know how to stop it but CHOOSE not to do it.

Your assumption could be true,but still don't justify training SB in salary/performance ratio
I don't chose to not try to stop LI,I chose to have the best player that I can afford,and to have them, I HAVE to sacrifice SB

Also, I would be curious for you to answer me a question, if you would. Lets assume you can choose any lineup of players, but you want the lineup that is going to produce the best defense against a LI offense using a 2-3 zone on defense. How would you set up the players? Rather than giving skill levels since that wont accomplish much, rank the following skills in order of importance for each position:

OD/ID/SB

Let's ignore rebounding in this scenario since it really only plays in what happens after the shot, and not before. I have a feeling this question is the reason why so many people have such varying answers. Once you have done that, if you want, assign 45 points for big men and say 30 points for guards, and 35 for SF. I would be quite interested to see how you view it.

ID/OD/SB

20 ID/20 OD/5 SB for big mans
16 ID/14 OD/5 SB for SF
10 ID/18 OD/2 SB for guards(only because you give me fewer points,here I would add some points to SB,till 7,and to OD too)