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I'm liking your style!

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haha thanks mate I appreciate

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actually koop, that random copy-past was related to my personnal life so I guess it's not off topic? it could be a way to "introduce myself"?

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Results of the '5 Federations POLL' are worth noting here:

Of the 16 people who have voted, 14 believe we need a new Federation! Surely this ends the debate about the revitalisation of the offsite forum!?

Importantly, 9 of those 14 believe it needs to contain both the U21 NT and the NT. So, I must concede that a new federation will have both if I am elected.

@whitewind...the player info you speak of will be available in the new federation/forum. Of course, the problem will be with those who have supporter and those who don't in terms of accessing it. However, given that 14 of 16 want a federation means that 14 of 16 know supporter will be a must in order to access it.


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Actually buddy, that's probably the only point that will ever be mentionned in this forum and that I totally agree with. The manager should post the skills of the player so as to give a template to other managers.


This is what I said would be included in the forum!

From: Mickyster

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So how do you get more people other then the about 60 or 70 people with supporter involved with the NT sides?
This is the issue from me on the topic. To be effective internationally we need more people active in training players for the NT sides and I fail to see how this can be done if someone needs to be a supporter before they can get access to the federation and all the info there.
I am a fan of federations. Just think it is a mistake to make it the major tool for the NT sides.

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16 votes is not the enough to base it on IMO. those who voted I would assume are the more active and mostly have supporter.

Would of been keen to see use an existing federation for it as a option.

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I believe a great leader needs three qualities:

1. Passion
2. Determination
3. Vision

Some would argue that you would need the ability to understand skills, tactics, etc etc, but really, that kind of stuff can be discussed as part of a committee of head coach/assistant coaches/australian community. That's the whole idea of having a forum/federation.

Mr Green, I believe you have all the above qualities. You have the vision to make big changes to how the U21 is run, heck, even the aussie BB community in general. And I believe you have the passion and determination to see it through. So you'll be getting my vote. Best of luck.

(even though you backed Sid to win in our S23 Finals match!!! jk :)


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Date: 6/12/2013 9:17:04 AM
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Need I refer you to the election rules? As stated in (242991.1)
"These rules may seem a bit harsh, but they're intended to make the elections run smoothly and make sure things don't get out of hand."

The gibberish you copy and pasted was completely off-topic. If you feel that the other candidate's speeches were too "long" or too "off-topic" then that is up to your own judgment. You don't have to read it. But the act you just pulled to put your point across was uncalled for.

From: Mr J

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16 votes is not the enough to base it on IMO. those who voted I would assume are the more active and mostly have supporter.

Would of been keen to see use an existing federation for it as a option.


I apologise, mate. I really should have had that as an option to be fair. However, can I ask you if you really think the Wombat Federation is the right place to conduct all NT business? You just stated that a federation needs to be used. You also stated that a federation, on account of the supporter required to access it limits people...so how does using the existing Wombat thread make any difference?

The Wombat federation has become the hub of aussie activity since its creation (a credit to you), but it is full of information and threads that have no relavence to NT stuff. Surely using your thread would make it hard to distinguish NT from non-NT?


From: Mickyster

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I believe a federation is the way to go long term. But believe BB should allow special ones for NT sides be set up that non supporters can access. Or at least a private forum.

I think the issue of making it a federation only supporters can use will mean it is harder to get more people to train players and improve the player pool for the 21 NT side and long term the Nt side.

How will you find new managers and keep them upto date informed who are not supporters? There are some very good managers who are not supporters and more new ones each day. Getting all these people involved if important to keep the side strong IMO. I don't see that happening without a way for non supporters to get access to all the info in the off site forum and its issues are mainly a lack of input from NT coaches and also being only focused on NT sides.

I believe bringing back the mentor program based on the off site forum will bring in more managers interested and trying to train players that suit the NT sides long term.

I have posted in the suggestion forum about doing something that would include non supporters and would hope lots of our community who see the issue would support such a suggestion.

Somewhere on BB would make it easier but taking out most the managers we have who are not supporters is not the right way to increase our player pool which is vital for the 21 NT side. We lacked Sf and PF the last 2 seasons. Without more managers training how will we address that issue?

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