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From: Knecht

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Date: 12/9/2016 5:03:06 AM
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I think there is no reason not too agree with your post. On top of that, I think that the suggested change of 3pt line in the previous season (making it little closer to the net, thus encouraging outside oriented players and tactics and rising the 3pt%) wasn't that noticeable either and didn't seem to reflect on good JS/JR player percentages.


I think that there was an complaint, that 3p% was too high now. Not sure what happened with that though.

IMO: the problem with 3point shooting isn't the %age, but the low volume though.

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
From: Nicolas

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On NT level, on the example of our team it didnt look like that case. Anyways, any attempt to balance inside vs outside tactics should be welcomed

From: Knecht

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On NT level, on the example of our team it didnt look like that case. Anyways, any attempt to balance inside vs outside tactics should be welcomed


I did not have the impression either, but as its quite hard to collect some data, I have no clue what the truth is.

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
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Date: 12/9/2016 5:42:48 AM
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I think that there was an complaint, that 3p% was too high now. Not sure what happened with that though.

IMO: the problem with 3point shooting isn't the %age, but the low volume though.
It happened that I'm building a Moutinho-style app which I will keep for myself and that I will use to analyse this.

My problem is with a specific team which I'm keeping an eye on, who has much higher guarded and over defense 3pt FG% than salary (vs OD of the defenders) would suggest. I think 3pt FG% is probably about right at the moment, but when I finish my tool and when I put in all games from a season we can discuss how league averages and advanced stats compare to real life.

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Date: 12/9/2016 5:52:32 AM
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I think that there was an complaint, that 3p% was too high now. Not sure what happened with that though.

IMO: the problem with 3point shooting isn't the %age, but the low volume though.
It happened that I'm building a Moutinho-style app which I will keep for myself and that I will use to analyse this.

My problem is with a specific team which I'm keeping an eye on, who has much higher guarded and over defense 3pt FG% than salary (vs OD of the defenders) would suggest. I think 3pt FG% is probably about right at the moment, but when I finish my tool and when I put in all games from a season we can discuss how league averages and advanced stats compare to real life.


The percentages might be right, but the shooting volume does not match the skills imo. Maybe this is a shortcoming of the engine, but in my opinion a better shooter should see [(many) more] shots from outside - no matter which tactic you are running.

Right now you can cut down your sharpshooters to almost zero 3-point attempts with the right tactic. That should not happen.

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
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Date: 12/9/2016 5:56:11 AM
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Then you're really asking a change in the GE, which is a good idea but we both know it's not going to happen. Motion has a lot more 3pt FGA than in the past, that's for sure, so Marin changed something there.

Also the team I'm interested in, regularly ignore the inside big men (perhaps due to relatively low flow, but that's one of the things I need to check) and chucks a lot of 3 pointers

Last edited by Lemonshine at 12/9/2016 5:57:48 AM

From: Foto

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Date: 12/9/2016 6:00:22 AM
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I get your point, I just don't agree with your conclussions.

From: Robard

To: Foto
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Date: 12/9/2016 6:14:17 AM
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Show me a LI team that had a rise in team salary due to the change while a comparable non-LI team from the same first league had a lower one. My team is by no means a LI team and i had a significant rise.

From: Foto

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Date: 12/9/2016 6:40:39 AM
Totwart
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I would need player's skills to do that and I don't have access to them.
What I can tell you is that in my group the team who has trained his guards for a long time to play inside tactics is now paying the highest salaries and that my inside oriented guards have a higher salary whereas my no oriented inside guards have a lower salary.
And anyway, I repeat again that the change always was meant to be made in a soft way. I wouldn't say for sure that this is the final stage of the proccess.

From: Robard

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Date: 12/9/2016 6:44:55 AM
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What you cant dispute is that high TSP players got more expensive due to the change which might be ok from a reality point of view but is detrimental to the BB economy, which is in a very poor condition as it is and yet, we are discussing a mostly insignificant change (that in my opinion hits the wrong players) instead of an inportant one.

From: LooKA

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Date: 12/9/2016 7:15:16 AM
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its just funny how every discussion here ends up on economy theme :)

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