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thanks but i am very far away from having a player compete in any national team.

The NT is not only for people with players on it. It is a place to see BuzzerBeaters best builds and how they are used tactically. Other than that it is a place that has some real good people, who enjoy helping there fellow BB'ers.

Childish? Maybe

I don't think it is childish. I sometimes send trash talk to my opponents before games and I usually try to start up some discussions in the league forum. I personally would enjoy this kind of thing if ever we get to play. ;-)

As for joining the NT discussion, you just have to look at The_Mogul. As far as I know, he does not have a U21 or NT player, but he was very active on the NT forum last season. He is actually still really active on the U21 scene. On the other hand, if it is not your cup of tea, I understand. But it is a great way to learn about tactics and to see what works or what does not work in BB.

But I think it is quite true. Some people are just more comfortable looking in. I for one read the forums for along time prior to getting involved.

Yeah i agree, i end up looking through a lot of the stuff in the forums, our Canadian forum in particular, and most of the time i do not post anything.
I do like to check out the NTs every once and a while just to see how they are doing and look at the tactics. It is a very good way to learn about the game as you hear expert advice from people like RiP and theoldchuckd ;) I learned a few things from it myself.

I am not sure what we could do to get some "advertising" for our NTs but we could post some sort of message to new users and maybe even add it to the Manager Tutorial to check your NT's status or at least their Roster. Just an Idea. Good luck, and i hope we can get some more Canadian managers interested which will in turn, make our Canadian teams and players better, as well as our NTs. Good stuff ;)
Jordanjr

Advertising Idea...

Not sure if this would work. But maybe some of the game programers can put the link to all the NT games in each of the teams scheduals. Similiar to the BIg 8 VS. Great 8. Last season i ddint have a player in it but i still watched it. Perhaps if players watch the NT games it would get them more excited about thier NT team.


thoughts/concerns/praise?

Hey Guys,

I'm 1 and bit seasons into BB. I find it interesting and fun.
I tried the mentor thing with 3 different people who all had no time. So I kind of just gave up on it and will keep learning from my mistakes. I've also tried getting into the offline message boards and 3 times joined with no response. In my case its not from a lack of trying.
My main lack of Canada forum participation is due to the fact that I'm busy and really only have time for thing that game oriented. Unfortunately with a young son and 3 fantasy sports teams, BB and Metroho hockey sim there is isn't much time for forum posting.

I am a newer user (this is my third season) so here are some random thoughts:

- I think part of the problem is that the BB forums aren't particularly user friendly (at least for new users) due to the lack of a search function, open sub-forums and some of the other things normally associated with forums. I personally much prefer the offsite forum and I would like to see more use out of that (i.e. more user written guides, more non-national team discussion, etc.).
- I think formalizing the mentor system might be better. I contacted a few players about mentoring early on, but as a new user you don't even really know what to ask people. After a season I just started randomly messaging various more experienced managers to get individual pieces of advice as I thought of it, but I am perhaps more forward than some other new managers. One suggestion I of have would be to perhaps have senior managers offering to scrimmage against new managers and then exchanging bbmail with them afterwards explaining why they made specific tactical choices and explaining why certain things happened the way they did. Learning to read the box scores/ratings in this game is tough at first but makes a huge difference when you figure it out.
- Similarly, I have learned a lot from the breakdowns and discussions of NT games on the offsite forum, perhaps having two D1 managers breaking down a game against each other on the forums would be neat for new managers to see.
- I also think that a general problem is that a lot of the lingo and slang on the boards goes unexplained and it can be intimidating for some new users. Making sure you explain what CT or "crunching it" is in popular threads ads a few seconds of typing but may make things seem less intimidating.

- I think that the main thing that is offputting to new managers is just that this game can be hard at first, particularly if you start mid or late season. As is often said, this is a marathon not a sprint and I think the delayed satisfaction is what keeps people from getting really invested in the game and in turn not involved in the community aspect. A good beginners guide on the offsite forum (not just NT training specific) could help that, as could people providing win now type advice, not just "train D1 caliber player" type advice. The first piece of advice I got was from JBMrock and he just told me not to spend a lot of money on players or staff, get a level 4 trainer and to train defense (or buy defense on the positions I'm not training). That sort of advice is basic, but it got me to division two in two seasons and let me establish a working and viable franchise economy. That sort of advice is far more important to retaining and encouraging active users than elaborate discussions about training world-class small forwards (not that those discussions aren't super interesting and important as well... they're just aimed at a different group of people).
- Finally - can the "you might have a National team player!" add include a link to the off-site forum? Can the form bbmail sent to check on prospects for the first time also include a link? Really throw the link in people's faces and try to sell it to them.

I am sure I can come up with some other ideas, but that's it for now.

I just registered again for the off=line site.
I have registered 3 times previously. No I never contacted you to say that I registered.
I pretty much have used this ID for almost everything I've done on the internet in the last 13 years. The only time I don't is when it is taken. So I did not use multiple names.

In the mentor thread it says to contact the name on the list via BB-mail. I contacted Inara(24910) and jbmcrock (24823) and received mail back they were to busy. I contacted a 3rd name on the list and never got a response. I have the messages in the BB mail if you really need proof. After 3 attempts I simply gave up. I only ever contacted names on the mentor list. Assuming that I contacted teams from my own league makes no sense.

I take serious offence to your claiming I'm a lair(not once but twice) and that I would actually make up stories. Not sure what purpose making up a story might serve. I guess you figured I have the time to take a 1/2 hour out of my retail purchasing job the week of christmas to concoct a story about how I have tried and am still interested in being as active as possible.
Your reply might be a starting point on why people haven't been getting involved with the forums, I know I'm less interested now.

An all Canadian Private League might be something to boost interest but I guess the tough thing is that only people who have upgraded their membership can join and they are usually the active ones.

Either way, maybe an I AM Canadian league would get a bit of banter going.

Some great ideas there. I will just point out that RIP has kind of always made the mentor system formalized. However, it has been dead for so long that maybe no one knows it is there.

Once I have some time, I will look at rewriting my U21 player message. It was originally meant to be a temporary measure, until RIP and I could agree on what we were going to do with the messages. But now that I have taken over the scouting (at least for now), I should really do something more permanent. Maybe I will float it by you once it is complete?

I am a newer user (this is my third season) so here are some random thoughts

I think that you make some great points here. I know that when I first started playing, I didn't really use the forums at all, because it was so difficult to find anything there. I also like the part you wrote about the simple advice you got from Jbmrock, as that's the general sort of advice that I have tried to give out myself (whenever anyone has asked me).

One thing that really helped me, as a new manager, is that I started out with a team full of very good defensive players (my five best overall players pretty much all had respectable defense). This caused my team to win almost every game, which was fun, so even though I didn't really do anything to improve my team (for my first whole season or so), I still had fun watching my team play. This kept me interested in the game near the beginning, and eventually, I starting learning more about how to manage my team, and really have had a great time playing Buzzer Beater.

A couple season ago, when I was still somewhat of a new player, I thought about the things that had made my team good right away. I wrote a guide about this, and shared the main points with several brand new players that I have mentored. However, I never really saw a good place to post a guide like this at the time, and just shared it with individual players that were interested.

Would anyone like me to post up a revised version of this guide, aimed at a player whose account was just activated? And if so, where would be the best place to post it? It might be helpful in building the user base, but I don't know. Any thoughts would be appreciated. :)

~The Mogul