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134991.9 in reply to 134991.8
Date: 3/17/2010 4:03:22 AM
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That may be true if you have a lvl 5 trainer doing 1 position training focusing on pressure and with a 18 year old short trainee.

What I am saying is that don't expect these pops to go up as quickly if you are trying to do these training on a 7'0 C as height will slow his training down quite significantly

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134991.10 in reply to 134991.9
Date: 3/17/2010 4:21:16 AM
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I definitely agree that height would slow you down, but the point I was trying to illustrate is that if you ignore height, a center can be trained in guard skills and receive just as many pops as a guard. So it's not really that guard skills train faster, its more than One-on-one pops really quickly which is a guard skill and so it might seem like guards get more pops, but a center would get a good number of pops if they trained one-on-one as well for a while.

I definitely think you can get 13 pops at least with an 18 year old trainee and just a level 4 trainer. As long as the height is decent, one-on-one training is surprisingly quick at training driving and handling, and it trains multiple other things as well. If you had some high sublevels you could very easily do it.

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134991.11 in reply to 134991.9
Date: 3/17/2010 4:21:18 AM
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I definitely agree that height would slow you down, but the point I was trying to illustrate is that if you ignore height, a center can be trained in guard skills and receive just as many pops as a guard. So it's not really that guard skills train faster, its more than One-on-one pops really quickly which is a guard skill and so it might seem like guards get more pops, but a center would get a good number of pops if they trained one-on-one as well for a while.

I definitely think you can get 13 pops at least with an 18 year old trainee and just a level 4 trainer. As long as the height is decent, one-on-one training is surprisingly quick at training driving and handling, and it trains multiple other things as well. If you had some high sublevels you could very easily do it.

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134991.12 in reply to 134991.1
Date: 3/17/2010 8:59:59 AM
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it might jsut be me, but you Aussies seem very active on the fora out here :D

first off, have you read the training speed analysis thread? (78242.1) this shoudl provide you with alot of information that is needed.

second Q:

it depends on your lvl trainer, ammount of numbers you get on that position, etc... but if you go Monopost ( 1 positiong training, lvl 5) then you'll find the answers in the Speed analyse training thread.

3) redefine that quesiton please. do you mean the ammount of pops per week? if so, then that would be to have the main pop and all teh side pops mentioned in the training speed analyse thread. if not, please redefine, cause i don't really understand the question.

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134991.13 in reply to 134991.12
Date: 3/17/2010 9:08:25 AM
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yes ive read the training thread extensively , ive even made my own program which calculates pops and updates players stat lines via to what training you chose.

i know that i will find the answers in the training thread, im interested in other peoples views of what the average amount and max amount of pops are per season.

some players will say 9 pops others 11, im just interested in seeing whats more common.

question 3, whats the max amount of pops per season for 1 player, meaning how many pops can one player get in one season not including stamina or free throws.


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134991.14 in reply to 134991.13
Date: 3/17/2010 10:40:35 AM
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Well that last question is very hard to answer lol. If I had really really really high sublevels on every single skill, and I trained a different thing every week (So start with Pressure the first week, and work your way down the possible training options list), then I think you can easily get about 25 pops in a season. 25 pops in a season means less than 2 pops a week average. I think this would be very easy to do given high sublevels.

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134991.15 in reply to 134991.12
Date: 3/17/2010 8:02:23 PM
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Aussies are very social people, even if we are in a room by ourselves staring at a computer screen we like to socialise.

I can't believe that anyone ever got 25 pops in a season from one player. there is another thread somewhere where people are listing their pops and the most has been around 14 although there is one more training to go and triple pops do happen.

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134991.16 in reply to 134991.15
Date: 3/18/2010 7:43:34 AM
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I don't know anyone that has got 25 either, but what I mean was that if you had an 18 year old trainee, and the trainee had low stats (which train faster) and every stat was just about to pop (i.e. high sublevels) then it wouldn't be too hard to get 25 pops as every skill is going to pop at least once straight away. And you only need 2 pops a week average to get more than 25 pops in the season.

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134991.17 in reply to 134991.16
Date: 3/18/2010 7:48:24 AM
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but what I mean was that if you had an 18 year old trainee, and the trainee had low stats (which train faster)


Are you sure about that? I thought that skills train faster if they're low compared to similar skills the player has (let's say low rebounding trains faster if his inside defense and shot blocking are already good).
I've never heard that low skills in general train faster...

No offense, I'd just like to get that confirmed.

We have both said a lot of things that you are going to regret.
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134991.18 in reply to 134991.17
Date: 3/18/2010 8:05:06 AM
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hmmm...pretty sure I read that somewhere. I'll see if I can find it, but if someone else can confirm that would be awesome. I know that skills (eg. primary skills) train slower if they are uneven (like IS = 10 and ID = 6).

If what you said is right, then as long as he has 1 high skill (respectable) in the inside skills, and 1 high skill (respectable) in the guard skills, then they should all train faster right?

No offence taken, I'm not 100% sure, its possible that I read what you were referring to about skills training faster if other skills are good and I just got confused.

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134991.19 in reply to 134991.18
Date: 3/18/2010 8:11:57 AM
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If what you said is right, then as long as he has 1 high skill (respectable) in the inside skills, and 1 high skill (respectable) in the guard skills, then they should all train faster right?


That would probably be too easy said also considering that respectable is not very high usually...
but yes, training skills in balance is faster than training a mono-skiller.

We have both said a lot of things that you are going to regret.
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