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I hate the fact that 'throwing games' is even something teams consider...

If I had one BB wish it would be that this part of the current system gets fixed. BTW this is an every season discussion that will have alot of differnt opinions, none of which are 100% correct. Personally I think throwing games is ridiculous, I would sooner put my best team out there and let the cards fall where they may.

Consider this, you are in first place, you have 11 enthusiasm, and you are playing the second top team in your division and it is the last game before playoffs. If you lose this game you are still going to be in first place in your conference. Would you play TIE and "throw" the match because you know that you will be able to increase your chances in playoffs by doing this? I think the answer is a definite yes.

There are instances where throwing a match can be very beneficial for you.

Sorry if I misunderstood what you meant by "throwing" games.

Personally I don't think that is throwing the game, if it does not affect the standings it is pretty minor. Heck pro teams rest there stars very frequently in meaningless games, it is completely understood.

Throwing games to drop in the standings is brutal, too bad it is part of BB :(

I wish it was so hurtful to teams fan support that it eliminated it all together. And at the same time I understand that finishing fifth really sucks, so teams will 'throw' games to get sixth. All in all it is a topic that should be addressed as it is currently something that has way to much influence on tactics.

ah I understand what you mean now, and yes I completely agree. Personally I think this could be solved by having prize money for each position. So 1st would get x dollars, and it would get lower with each finishing spot. But this would not be linear, so finishing 5th would be similar in prize money to finishing 4th (as 4th gets extra games and extra income from playoffs) but finishing 6th would be drastically lower than finishing 5th so that people aim to finish higher up in the rankings.

I think that a good way to make people avoid throwing games to finish in 6th is a relegation tournament. So instead of measuring up the opponent in your series, all teams that finish 6th and 7th go into a tournament. Randomly drawn similar to the Cup, that way there is a real chance that you will demote. As it is right now teams can figure out who they will play and are 95% sure that finishing sixth won't get them relegated, it is a chance worht taking. Make it really risky and all of a sudden the leagues will be far more competitive.

Sorry to go off topic :)

hmm I like the idea, but if you are going to do that for relegation then you would have to do it for playoffs to I think. Also would probably require a lot of coding. Wouldn't my idea be simpler and still achieve the same? Or do you think the additional prize money would not be enough incentive?

Cash would not work unless it was really significant amounts.

1st- $500,000
2nd- $450,000
3rd- $400,000
4th- $350,000
5th- $300,000
6th- $50,000
7th- $25,000

A system like that may work, but it makes the difference between the elite and the average teams even bigger. That is not ideal imo.

And as for the playoffs going into a tournament, I disagree. Leave the top four teams to battle it out as is. Just throw all the 6th and 7th place teams into the tournament. As I mentioned the teams that are throwing games, know that they are likely not going to lose in the relegation. A tournament style system also evens the field in some ways. There is a big difference in many leagues between the confrences talent wise. So the best teams don't always win, there are many good teams that have relegated, but are significantly better than alot of teams in the division above them.

My team is a great example. Right now I am 4th, realistically I will finish 4th, 5th or 6th. If I were to throw some games to finish 6th I would face a team that I just beat by 60 points. Not really a big worry about facing relegation, as in all likelyhood I would win it pretty easily.

Okay I understand. How would the tournament style work? So 6th place gets to draw a 7th place? Or would it be that all 6th and 7th teams get put in a hat and get drawn out randomly against another 6th or 7th place finisher and the loser of each match relegates?

This would definitely stop me throwing games, unless my team was ridiculously good and I knew I was only a small chance of relegating.

Well either way would work. I like just a complete crap shoot random draw, as I think it is a really big deterant.

A tournament could also involve multiple opponents in a ladder system. If that was the case the bottom teams could also be moved around, so they would end up in a different league.

Last edited by Mod-beanerz at 5/6/2010 4:26:19 PM

ah okay. Well I don't think it will happen anytime soon but hopefully next season or the season after :)

you already have 3 young players (2 with good potential) ....