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When you look at my posts and comments, too me its a suggestion and nothing in criticism sense. Of course if you or any other users feel its criticism well so be it. But without criticism one can never improve.

My quote from earlier

What I can see out of writing such a match report is the increase in interest of managers of players in the NT. Managers want to know how their players stood out among others on the team. In fact, it could help make managers want to train their players onto the NT that much more. That way we get more competition for high quality players. We can then select the best of the best for the NT.

Everyone wins in this case, mangers become more active in participation and we have a better pool of players to select for the NT. These are just the little stuff that helps make the game for interesting for everyone.

And regarding your post saying I'm back pedaling? How so?
Makes no sense. Okay, you update us with a just a scoreline. And thats going to prompt interest? Go and refer again to my previous posts.
Again my previous two posts

You could include the point in time of the match where a big play was made or the shift in momentum occurred, stuff like who was our team's MVP

TBH, if you watch the match viewer instead of just relying on the boxscore after the game, you can notice some differences. Does the boxscore tell you when the game momentum changes, who hit the big shots at crucial times, what were the critical fouls at which times of the match?

By including more of such details then interest can be prompted. Not just a scoreline update.

Rooted at the bottom? Well if you took the time before you posted your half-arsed cynical reply, any legit manager will
know I'm tanking. I've sold of my best player and going the development route right now. And before you come up with another witty ass comment, tanking is a prominent strategy in this game, even maybe in real life basketball management.
I made a run for the Malaysian Cup, and I don't think I fared badly at all. In the Last 8 match against Malaysian Champions Nick Of Time I was leading the whole way through till late in the 4th quarter. That sounds way better than getting your ass handed to you by Ginakia. Way better. =)

To me it seems youre trying to rebut everything that I say or comment on. Are you trying to prove something?

In the Last 8 match against Malaysian Champions Nick Of Time I was leading the whole way through till late in the 4th quarter. That sounds way better than getting your ass handed to you by Ginakia. Way better. =)

anyone whom just joined the game for a season will get their ass whooped by any mbba or ex-mbba teams. i thought a 'vet'' should already know that..

basketball is a very straight forward game, it's either a win or a loss.. will history remember that you were leading right until the last minute?

Ahh, a little spice and drama to our boards!

With reference to LA-Darvish's initial post which stirred up a hornets nest (Not a bad thing judging by the activity in here), I do understand where he is coming from in requesting for a more in-depth analysis for our NT matches which is not immediately available from the numbers. The thread then went into a mini-flame war mode, so I will not digress from this point on.

Allow me to attempt an example, which shouldn't reveal too much inside info on our NT because I do not have any inside info in the first place.


On paper and based on the players' salaries, this was always going to be an uphill battle for Korea. This was further complicated by their choice of tactics. Their starting SF is listed as a PF, which means the player is closer to being inside based and yet they chose to play a Run and Gun strategy rather than putting emphasis on going inside. Perhaps to compensate playing a PF in the SF position, they chose to play the 1-3-1 defense in an attempt to shore up their perimeter defense with only 2 outside players on court. Or perhaps, they anticipated Malaysia to turn up raining threes on them. Whichever was the case, Malaysia ended up with the safe Push The Ball/ Man to Man tactics.

With a weakened inside defense, needless to say Malaysia went bananas in their paint. Their star man, 123k Jae-Suk Kim, played at PF but got murdered by his experienced Malaysian counterpart Hairul who only earns half his salary. Malaysia's top performer for the night, Hairul posted a massive 5 blocks, 14 rebounds and 27 points, seeing over half his attempts go through the net. Hairul's backup, Feriza, had an even more incredible performance statistically, shooting an amazing 100% from the field and from the free throw line. Malaysian Center Halim rounded up the triumvirate of inside men by also sinking over half his attempts, registering 22 rebounds and 18 points. From pre-match reports, we do suspect that Jae-Suk Kim's so-so form also contributed to the inside collapse. When your star big man steps towards the cheerleaders when you tell him to 'Get the ball!', you know it isn't going to end well.

Kwu led our outside performers in terms of points, but it was always the inside players who were going to be key whenever that 1-3-1 defense formation is played. Even if he did go 0-7 from the 3 point line, show him some love will ya fellas? With home court and the fans backing behind the team, Malaysia was always expected to come out with the goods.

To : LA-Darvish

There are 2 main reasons why I do not write in detail on our NT matches:

1) I don't wish to reveal too much info of our team's strengths and weaknesses on a public forum, where it is easily viewed by our opponents which may in turn use the info against us in coming matches.

2) I hate writing long essays. In any language.

I think it is fair to say that the reason I posted the routine NT Update threads was just to increase community awareness about the current NT campaign. You have a point when you mentioned that I should highlight a particular player(s)' s outstanding achievement in an NT match to increase interest of local managers to train NT prospects. And also echoing Aro's suggestion to "include some insights in your weekly report without divulging too much detail for our competition to take advantage of", I will try to be a bit more "descriptive" in my next NT post. A bit.

As for your other comment about my role of NT manager and stuff, I will take it as it is. Just a comment. I will still serve my term as NT manager the way I have been doing for the past few seasons and I will run the team in the way I deem is the best for the country. I do not need to disclose how I run my business in the NT because I know I'm in charge now. And I should know I have responsibility on my shoulder to deliver results and do my best for my country.

Cheers.

Good post, Spaz! You are now officially appointed as Editor-In-Chief for all of our post-match write-ups from now on:)

I will just sit in front of my PC after every NT match, dunking my Hup seng ping pong crackers into my cuppa, and enjoy a game summary recap. Song!

By the way, where did you find a word like triumvirate?

Makes no sense?

Simple logic. I will speak in layman terms and plain english, very slowly. : )

1) You start with asking why NOT is still the NT Manager when he's doing minimal work. That he should give us in depth reports on matches because he has insights into the team that no one else has.

Like I said, whats the point of updating the Malaysian community on the score when we can easily check it. A NT team manager is supposed to know more about the team and have greater in-depth knowledge on the team.

So tell me, whats the point of Nick Of Time being NT manager, when he just does a little scouting,set orders and thats a wrap? At least show us why you're NT manager, tell us who are on the outside what we do not know.

Then when that arguement becomes thin, and it is evident ANYONE can write a report on the matches (like spaz just proved). You move on to your whole, lets inspire other managers speech. That sir, would be you back pedalling.

I'm glad you didn't refute the logic behind your posting and targeting criticisms only at the NT Manager. If you want to campaign for the manager position, by all means. Man up and admit it. No one will hold it against you. Quite frankly, like I said before, my initial question was a prompt for you to step up, and show us (well me at least) you can do something pro-active and have potential manager qualities.

At the end of the day, the slightly more indepth report is a good idea. But anyone can do it as spaz jus proved. Just takes a little research, time and effort.


Off topic:
Am I trying to prove something? Yes. I'm saying you're all talk and bluster.

You made it personal by talking down to me and telling me that you're my post 'stalker' and that I'm brash and unconstructive. And that I don't have the credentials to be the NT Manager. Duh! This is my first full season! Thank you Captain Obvious! I never did have the intention. I'm still bugging Kwaiwah and Spaz when I see them on chat and learning stuff. :)

edit: LMAO at the GinaKia whooping me in the Malaysian Cup snipe.

So I'm just educating you on logic and showing you how brash we new people are.

Oh, some constructive feedback for you:

6 seasons + in the game correct? In that span of time, apart from this year, you've only made it to the last 16. For the last 3 seasons you've been in every relegation playoff. You never made a MABBA playoff, well apart from the relegation ones. So you're tanking? Since you got promoted? Since season 9?

Bro! When you were asked to specify a strategy that you're good at, should have mentioned this instead of running away from the question! You're freaking awesome at tanking!!

Last edited by Simply Vince at 8/25/2010 10:44:31 PM

I didn't read the rest of your blabber as you seem to make no sense. You seem to be repeating the same old story.

But anyways I'm not here to win any argument against you. I just came to the national forums to voice my suggestion on the National Team.

Well, you said you were bugging KwaiWah and Spaz for any help you can get at any chance.
Back when I was new, it wasn't as active as it was now. The Malaysian userbase has gone up and it's good and exciting for everyone involved in Malaysia Buzzer Beater. I learned things on my own on how to play and build a team, but if youre the type who instantly asks for help so be it. Your style. Your preference.

The relegation playoff, frankly I see it as advantageous to my team. I have never given any thought myself that I could break into the Top 4 (playoffs in the Great 8), these Top 4 in the Great 8 are no slouches, giants in Malaysia Buzzer Beater. And even TerFu's Telok Air Tawar Fusion has a wealth of experience and Red Devilz has seniority and greater experience over me. That said, I would rather finish 6th or 7th rather than 5th. Terfu has also said he rather have a relegation series as it has playoff revenue from the matches. Everyone knows The Great 8 is better and tougher than the Big 8. I've read several posters saying this.

I didn't read the rest of your blabber as you seem to make no sense. You seem to be repeating the same old story. <--- 1) you read it to know its as you put it 'the same old story' 2) you go on to comment on the 'blabber' 3)guess the easy way out is to write it off as blabber ; )

But anyways I'm not here to win any argument against you. <--- then you go on to argue

There is a difference between asking for help and asking for advice.

I'm not too proud to admit I'm learning. I read up. Ask questions and pick up from there. There is no shame in discussing, sharing and learning from people with more experience than you.

If you wanna do everything by yourself then by all means. Your style. Your preference. I'd rather learn from other people's mistakes and avoid repeating them myself.

Just a side note: Spaz and Kwaiwah are not the only people I discuss and pick up stuff from. There are forums and players from different countries you could have asked if back then Malaysia wasn't so active.

On my side, I've said what I've got to say to you on this issue.

@Ah Moi: Nomination of Spaz seconded!

Wow, the forum has been an interesting read of late. Though maybe for the wrong reasons ;)

Spaz: Nice writeup! Certainly sparked my interest in the NT :p

Anyway, here my attempt at being the peacemaker:

Vicelicious: LA-Darvish is actually doing quite well considering that he is in MBBA Great 8 since Season 10. And Great 8 is certainly a lot harder than Big 8 conference. So let's not make things so personal and stop with the personal attacks.

LA-Darvish: Although Vicelicious only joined BB for a season plus, but from his post in this forum and help forum, I can see that he is picking up on the game fast and is already developing his own opinions on how the game operates. So let's not belittle a fellow Malaysian. Everyone has a right to voice their opinion.

Anyway changing topic...
Anyone thought that the Cup Finals was a disappointment? I was so eager for an interesting match after seeing Damientor achieve an upset against NoT. Only to find Damientor tanking the game and going TIE against Spaz. LOL. Talk about anti-climax!

Darvish play normal, not TIE.
Spaz CT... hehe.....
Maybe Darvish wanna proof that he is the best... but failed... lolz.....

Ahmoi :
Woi! It just happened to be an evening where I had some free time and CSI stopped for a commercial break. I charge one NT call-up per write-up, I also accept free lunches!

I read a lot of fiction back in the day so I can string together some fancy words and then all the women will want to have sex with me.


Kwaiwah :

I thought I would have a close fight on my hands too, shocker to see a non-CT in a Cup final. Another case of 'I thought the game would be next week'-itis?