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From: mpoc
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Date: 10/8/2010 1:43:31 AM
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Here are my question for the candidates...

We are a relatively small country, currently with 78 active users... Compared to large countries, we only get few rookies every draft, and much fewer rookies who have the skills and potential to be great players... This, to me, is a crucial disadvantage for us... My questions are:

1. What do you think we can do as a country to offset this disadvantage?

2. Is it advisable to train an 18yo rookie with good potential (perennial allstar up to HOF & ATG) even if he has low main skills to begin with? (awful-inept)

3. Is it advisable to train a 19yo rookie even if he is 1 season short of training when he turns 21?

From: colesy

To: mpoc
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Date: 10/8/2010 4:09:49 AM
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thanks for the question mpoc,

1. The only thing we can really do is to make sure we are training the fewer players we do get well, although looking at the draft forum it seems like not many people got any! ;)

2. this leads on from the first question in a way. I would never want anyone to feel forced ot train a poor player with good potential to the detrement of their own team. Personally i know myself I wouldnt train a player with main skills of inept or below. On the other hand however it would probably be an option to use these players as a 5th trainee using 2 position training. So in an answer to this question then i would only advise this if it wasn't a detrement to the persons team.

3. I have nothing against training 19 yr olds, of course everyone would prefer an 18 year old, but it doesnt allways work out that way. i definitely wouldnt not train a player just because they were 19 instead of 18.

From: vugs
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Date: 10/8/2010 5:04:58 AM
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just to make sure your sqauds are going to be made up off the best right now ( eg 20 - 21 yr old ) or the best in the future ( 18 - 19 yr olds ) or a mixture

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Date: 10/8/2010 5:27:29 AM
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The main things to realise is that it is highly likely that a majority of top draft picks will go to lower ranked NZ managers. With 21 leagues there are 21 chances for a high skill + high potential draftee, 20 of these chances will not go to NZBL managers.


So are you saying the only good trainers are NZBL managers?

From: Buttsy

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Date: 10/8/2010 4:35:34 PM
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Also LeftHook, you're background was starting in Div III for a season, wasn't it? so you're living proof that plenty of good managers start or are currently in Div II or possibly even Div III.

From: colesy
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Date: 10/8/2010 6:46:58 PM
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Really it's not an issue at all having the majority of our better younger players in the lower leagues, The managers in the III leagues have a better opportunity to train these players than the higher leagues. The fact that we are so small means that most of the lower leagues are filled with bots which equals easy wins which means that training minutes are a lot easier to spread around.

For this reason I would say that managers in the lower leagues are probably the most important in developing good talent. Sure we all have a job to do, but with the bot teams not scouting these managers have a real good opportunity to get a good young player and turn him into a superstar.

From: Tiresias

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Date: 10/8/2010 8:01:48 PM
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Yeah that's definitely true. When I was in Div II and III I could do 1 position training all the time! Now I can only do it when my schedule isn't as tough.