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163260.9 in reply to 163260.8
Date: 11/9/2010 5:37:43 PM
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NBA stats are manipulated, but thats not the question...

http://deadspin.com/5336974/an-assist-for-nick-van-exel-how-an-nba-scorekeeper-cooked-the-books

You surely meant to say "Nick Van Exel's assist stats were manipulated in home games at one point in time"...


Did you even read what is written on the website I posted the link to?

I thought a GM would know better than post spam in a suggestions thread...

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163260.10 in reply to 163260.9
Date: 11/9/2010 5:54:12 PM
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The original Van Exel incident is well-know. That's also the only case for which there is factual evidence. Everything else, as the author himself admits, is allegations with little support.

Now, if any of this is true and as widespread as the guy suggests, it's obviously a problem for a league working assiduously to convince fans it's not some rigged carny game.


I watch 100+ NBA games a season. Maybe some of this stuff was true and common in the days of the players mentioned in the article, but it certainly isn't right now.

So, to your question, yes, I read the article

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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163260.11 in reply to 163260.10
Date: 11/9/2010 6:31:54 PM
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Do you also keep your own stat sheet updated when watching a game ? Believe me some players block shots and they never appear on the stat line.
But at the end of the day it doesn't make a difference and I don't care.

"Air is beautiful, yet you cannot see it. It's soft, yet you cannot touch it. Air is a little like my brain." - Jean-Claude Van Damme
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163260.12 in reply to 163260.11
Date: 11/9/2010 7:43:21 PM
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Do you also keep your own stat sheet updated when watching a game ? Believe me some players block shots and they never appear on the stat line.
But at the end of the day it doesn't make a difference and I don't care.

I watch games with an open play-by-play (Y!Sports), which means I see both the box score and the on-screen version of the player.

While there is undoubtedly a human factor involved, I think talking about systematic manipulation of box scores is somewhat far fetched.

Last edited by GM-kozlodoev at 11/9/2010 7:44:11 PM

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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163260.13 in reply to 163260.10
Date: 11/9/2010 8:31:44 PM
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The original Van Exel incident is well-know. That's also the only case for which there is factual evidence. Everything else, as the author himself admits, is allegations with little support.


the author admit done this in less several cases a lot, even with support from externals ;)

Even when i expect the stats here quite objective, with little failures while making alley hoops without an Assist or some ghost assist from the bench.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 11/9/2010 8:34:48 PM

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163260.14 in reply to 163260.13
Date: 11/11/2010 12:15:54 PM
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I see the BA statistic in the box scores now, but am a little bit of a loss as to how one should interpret it. If a guy try to block too many shots and is out of position because of it? What about steal attempts -- players gambling on steal attempts that end up leading to easy baskets for the other team....


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163260.15 in reply to 163260.14
Date: 11/11/2010 12:24:04 PM
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BA does not mean how often a player tried to block a shot, but how often a players shot (attempt) was blocked.

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163260.16 in reply to 163260.15
Date: 11/11/2010 12:28:18 PM
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Ah...you're right...its block against, not block attempt.

Thanks...

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163260.17 in reply to 163260.16
Date: 11/12/2010 9:38:16 AM
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Ah...you're right...its block against, not block attempt.

Thanks...
Or Blocked Attempt, as in, attempt got blocked.

"Air is beautiful, yet you cannot see it. It's soft, yet you cannot touch it. Air is a little like my brain." - Jean-Claude Van Damme
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163260.18 in reply to 163260.17
Date: 11/12/2010 3:07:16 PM
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Or Bloody Arrogant, when it refers to a certain airline whose services I have had to enjoy one or two times too often.