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Naker that is a good point but how do you know that for sure? Have you ever heard that confirmed by a BB? It has barely been confirmed that it does exist. It might make sense that it could go down as the player got older, like the opposite of experience.

I don't know for sure that it doesn't change, however I'm almost certain that it can't be changed by anything the manager can do so that is why it isn't shown. All other skills can be changed via what the manager decides. For example training JS will increase JS and the secondaries. And simply putting a player on the court increases experience. But I doubt that playing extra or less minutes has any effect on the aggressiveness of the player.

My other reasoning would be that aggressiveness is meant to simulate the personality of the player, and just like in real life, personality doesn't really change (obviously there are exceptions in real life but I'm talking in general).

Also, my old PF that I'm sure you remember (Edward weird last name here) was a very aggressive player and constantly got 5 or 6 fouls a match, and he was a really old player, so either he was really really really aggressive when he was younger (which I doubt), or his aggressiveness stayed the same throughout his career hence why he was still aggressive at an old age.

But as I said before, I'm not 100% sure and never seen a BB confirm it so this is all just a theory and speculation.

The only problem with showing this stat is that people may stop training these aggresive players even though they can be very good. Or they may just sell for less which could be a good thing to a team that puts the effort into making him good.

Well, personally I would have paid 1M more if I knew that my player won't make fouls. In some other games, like in hattrick, this stat can be seen by managers.
These non-aggressive players price would increase and aggressive players price would decrease. Result would be +-0.

But.. My money was already spent so.. maybe in couple of years I could benefit from this if it was added.

Well you can watch some matches with that player before purchase. If he foul more by few, I wouldnt care, but I suppose this is another little thing which can make a difference between great and best manager.

Yes, yes of course we can detect stats of those old players. :) Has anyone actually read the first posts before posting their "wisdom". I was more interested of those 18y players straight from the draft (as said earlier). You can't see their stats. As I'm one of these managers who like to "build" my guys (at least now), not to buy some 25-28y oldies.

But, well.. this idea doesn't get the wind below it like I would have hoped. Someone are just born to suffer with aggressive players and others are luckier.

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Eh... What Napauttaja is trying to say is, that if you want fresh trainee and buy 18y one from transfer list, you CAN'T say if it's aggressive or not. And when player is in transferlist, you don't have much time to see it playing (most likely it isnt playing at all). So... you buy expensive 18y trainee, hall of famer and then notice that it's foul-addict. This thing should be included in scouting. When they do "testgames" for team and you notice some ratings, you should also be able to tell does player play aggressively or not.

"Don't argue with idiots. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you...

...with experience."

Last edited by skeletappi at 2/10/2011 5:13:22 PM

I see someone having elitist attitude here, maybe it's because of so cool GM-status.

That still doesnt make it more realistic. In real life if you are scouting people, you will also consider personality of players when you watch their matches. So if potential kids come to your club showing their skills and when you interview them etc. (reading in scouting pages btw if you didnt notice!), you really should have some kind of view about their personality as well.

If not, maybe they should change content of those pages and let people know that "You will scout only skills and potential of players but we want to keep personality hidden! We want to keep some random factor in game!".

I really don't see reason why it must be so mysterious hidden factor, it's just stupid. It doesnt add depth to this game or give any fun elements. Sure it's ok to watch old players and see how much they do fouls, but same should be doable somehow to youngsters as well.

Also, you can give higher bonuses in something for those players that are more aggressive. So people don't stop training them, but it would be up to manager to decide what he wants to do.

Just my 5 cents, but I guess that's too much for elitist attitude to read anyway.



Last edited by skeletappi at 2/10/2011 11:10:48 PM