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175297.9 in reply to 175297.1
Date: 2/23/2011 2:34:41 PM
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Bad idea.

I don't think our players should have periods, as they would blame their bad games on them, and not show up to practice because they had an aunt in town.

Oh, and they would be miserable to be around for a week before that, and no fun during that week. Imagine buying a guy off the transfer list, trying to plug him into your line-up and finding out it was his period. Oh, and what if all your players started to get on the same cycle!? Your whole team could be a mess for a week, and that wouldn't be fun for anyone.

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175297.11 in reply to 175297.9
Date: 2/24/2011 6:28:14 PM
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The idea originally suggested gets me thinking of the idea of multiple tactics for the same game.

Example
In the 'Set your lineup!' menu each team could select up to four tactics, (one for each quarter) and have these implemented into the simulation before hand

Offensive Tactic
Look Inside ---> Run 'n' Gun ------> Low Post --------> Look Inside

Defensive Tactic
Man to Man ------> 2-3 Zone -------> 2-3 Zone ---------> Full Court Press

This option is realistic because teams change their tactics late in the game to apply a press, or to try a different mode of scoring, and if it was preset before the game was simulated then it wouldn't require any manager to be present at the game.

What do you guys think?

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175297.12 in reply to 175297.11
Date: 2/24/2011 6:38:15 PM
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This idea would never work. It has been discussed before if memory serves me right.

You would make things a lot complicated and also why would u want to change tactics in the second quarter if your tactics were spot on in the first? Its plain suicide to switch to a 2-3 zone if a 3-2 zone was the right tactic for you in the first Q. Then it turns into a complete random guessing game on what you think ur opponent will play in each of the quarters.


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175297.13 in reply to 175297.12
Date: 2/24/2011 9:54:23 PM
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And you don't think teams switch tactics in game in the NBA? It might not be as random as this would and this would be more guesswork than countering an opponents new strategy, maybe this could be an option for PL's

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175297.14 in reply to 175297.13
Date: 2/24/2011 10:53:51 PM
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You can make live changes in the NBA. If a team changes tactics, you can change tactics to counter your opponents tactics.

You can't here as the games are simulated 15 minute before the game viewer starts. This is where the guess work comes from if you are able to change tactics every quarter as you will have no idea what your opponent is going to play every quarter.

Sometimes, a game just can not emulate rel life especially when it is not happening in real time. this is one of those scenarios.

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175297.15 in reply to 175297.11
Date: 2/24/2011 11:02:54 PM
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lets say your opponent play look inside - run and gun - look inside - runandgun alway in random order. So overall he is playing a neutral focus, but he gets the offense advantage throuhgh a specialised offense every quarter.

And even if the opponent scout him right, he can not defend with the right zone at the right time to counter the offensiv bonus - because if he trys so he will be off in 50% of the quarters which will lead to an disadvantage instead of an advantage in my eyes.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 2/24/2011 11:04:19 PM

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175297.16 in reply to 175297.15
Date: 2/25/2011 11:34:42 AM
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So what if you could have 1 tactic in advance to second half - if you are losing the game? Like you lose 45-55, playing low post against 2-3 zone (well obviously coach should know that during that time), you instructed your coach to play RaG (or better outside isolation, because probably there will be only like 1 outside player capable to do anything about it). Or maybe you could switch a whole lineup.

While it is about guessing before the game, might be interesting to be able to choose some kind of safety-switch mechanism. Perhaps even for cases where you will be sure that if you cannot win first half, you can get there scrubs only.

Question is if this is not too much work to pick up such tactic for the game, but usually happens that games are very uneven (most of them) and real competition comes like 5-10 times per season. For both cases it would be really helpful. Especially if there could be any "save" named as you want.

Last edited by aigidios at 2/25/2011 11:36:16 AM

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175297.17 in reply to 175297.16
Date: 2/25/2011 5:39:30 PM
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So what if you could have 1 tactic in advance to second half - if you are losing the game? Like you lose 45-55, playing low post against 2-3 zone (well obviously coach should know that during that time), you instructed your coach to play RaG (or better outside isolation, because probably there will be only like 1 outside player capable to do anything about it). Or maybe you could switch a whole lineup.


but if you react normaly the oponent react too, or not especially when the changes are drastic. Today the coach adjust the tactic slightly, when you play outside against an very strong outside tactic you play more inside later in the game, and if that is working the opponent coach maybe starts to protect his basket better. The same goes for 2-3 Zones against inside tactic, that the focus starts moving outside currently - but in a way that the right tactics from the beginning are always better.

I think with such drastic changes tactics starts to become unimportant, and people maybe even starts to complain that they loose because trhey scored 5 points to much in the first half ;)

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175297.18 in reply to 175297.11
Date: 2/25/2011 5:51:25 PM
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In reality, the believe the game engine slowly adjusts how each team plays (learning what works best), so I'm not sure how well changing tactics, even in this manner, would work.

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175297.19 in reply to 175297.17
Date: 2/26/2011 3:26:35 AM
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Indeed it sounds like tactics get less importancy. Also coach does it today that he tune current tactic slightly to better, but it is quite strange when it comes to your lineup - you might have there players which arent able to play that effectively.

And thats what Im talking about. Another thing is that you surely cannot anticipate almost anything and with volume of tactics we have in the game already, it is starting to be kind of just about luck. Well, personally Im not complaining, because I build-up whole philosophy of my team on that.

It is just there could be more things to anticipate. If decision between these two tactics (and lineups) could come with every timeout, might be ok. Also you could prefer at which conditions you like to choose one of those (so like 5 points doesnt matter if you dont want to).

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