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196407.9 in reply to 196407.6
Date: 9/13/2011 5:32:22 PM
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You should avoid 100+ minutes - gameshape training will help but most probably your players will lose 1 level.

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196407.10 in reply to 196407.9
Date: 9/13/2011 6:36:50 PM
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Thanks everyone for your help!

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196407.11 in reply to 196407.8
Date: 9/13/2011 7:46:48 PM
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Honestly I think if you get 48-72mins your GS will def go up (unless your already at 9) but if you dont get 48-72 then it will keep the GS the same, it wont go up or down.


This is not even remotely true.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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196407.12 in reply to 196407.11
Date: 9/13/2011 10:49:17 PM
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Honestly I think if you get 48-72mins your GS will def go up (unless your already at 9) but if you dont get 48-72 then it will keep the GS the same, it wont go up or down.


This is not even remotely true.

I agree....I think each player has thier own sweet spot. For example..I have to keep my NT SG between 62-80 or he drops. My PG with high stamina can go up to 87 and still be on level 9 but anything under 60 and he drops. I have a BIG who can go as low as 55 without dropping but if he plays over 75 he drops. I think if you have players on your teams for a long time, you will start to see GS patterns. I don't know if this is true but I really think they are starting to punish people for the 48 minutes at one position training thing. I have a trainee and when I do the 48 minute thing( 3 straight weeks and never went above respectable) he never pops in GS, I gave him 55 two weeks ago and he went up to strong...
Don't quote me on this, it's just an observation..

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196407.13 in reply to 196407.12
Date: 9/14/2011 2:28:11 AM
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I have a 26 year old SF/PF that was injured for two weeks. At the time of injury his GS was 9. His injury lifted in the 2nd week with his GS down to 7. My team still had a scrimmage remaining that week so I played him 48+ and his GS returned to 9 at the update. His ST is 2.

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196407.14 in reply to 196407.1
Date: 9/14/2011 3:14:45 AM
Milwaukee Lethargy
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I've had pretty disappointing results training game shape the few times I tried it.

Like multiple players that got 55-65 minutes with *no* increase in game shape! Another player got 82 minutes & his game shape still dropped!! & that's with a massage doctor. Now, a few players I didn't care about did increase their game shape. (a few guys that got 25-35 minutes only). Also, keep in mind my players had only been playing at most 70 minutes a week all season the last time i trained game shape. So it's not the effect from a prior week.

Of course maybe I just had bad luck?

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196407.16 in reply to 196407.15
Date: 9/14/2011 8:08:36 AM
Milwaukee Lethargy
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Yes, it seems incredibly random. & the results have always been frustrating for me. For players with proper minutes (about 60) there seemed almost no difference than *not* training GS.

BTW, I think the player I mentioned with 82 minutes dropped to respectable GS! There were a couple crazy results though.

I wonder if the only value for GS training is when players are way outside the proper minute range? Like for an injured player... or when a bunch of starters play 90-100 minutes perhaps. Maybe their GS might only fall 1 level instead of 2-3?


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196407.17 in reply to 196407.16
Date: 9/14/2011 8:15:40 AM
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i did it early in the season, where you had imho a very good effect cause nearly all players have space to improve.

And another time mid season, i could play my stars a bit more and/or get a good boost for a single match and especially at high division i think a won "away" or tv game is worth more then a training(especially when you have and old roster like mine).

Last edited by CrazyEye at 9/14/2011 8:16:05 AM

From: sku88an

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196407.18 in reply to 196407.16
Date: 9/14/2011 8:16:14 AM
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Well, the few times ive practiced GS my players usually go up to 9, with a few on 8. But those times ive kept my players at healthy minutes/week.
Anyhow, we will see what the outcome is this Friday!

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196407.19 in reply to 196407.12
Date: 9/14/2011 8:17:59 AM
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Strange, havent noticed that... ive trained quite a few players in 1-pos with only 48 mins a week in the last seasons, and they usually have 8 or 9 in GS.

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