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215754.9 in reply to 215754.8
Date: 5/6/2012 6:59:04 AM
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Now the situation is too much computer players in training, why let no training cost players to influence we have cost trained player price?
Before the market is in short supply, but demand exceeds supply at present，they are wrong.

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215754.10 in reply to 215754.8
Date: 5/6/2012 7:02:59 AM
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In many ways, many of BB season has not changed, such as reducing the free running, winning awards and so on

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215754.11 in reply to 215754.9
Date: 5/6/2012 7:03:04 AM
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i am sure they will say because it increases the overall amount of players in the game. Since its more fun to buy a competetive team in a first seazon of playing bb in lower leagues than to wait and save cash. This makes lower leagues more competetive. And since newbies doesnt quit so often as they used to it increases people count:D

Well but one more aspect, the users amount are steadily and slowly decreasing... so this doesnt work so well for them.

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215754.12 in reply to 215754.11
Date: 5/6/2012 7:05:14 AM
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You are right, the new game player did not come in, but because of the confusion of economy lead to the old game player loss

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215754.13 in reply to 215754.12
Date: 5/6/2012 8:22:20 AM
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Some good points, I really miss the training aspect too. It's getting increasingly hard to turn a profit on trainees even when bought at a reasonable price and trained optimally and it seems the economy has swung too far the other way from the days of sky high transfer prices.

If the money made from training and winning combined isn't as much as the money made from tanking, then tanking is what it's going to be for a lot of people. Which in turn ruins it more for the people trying to train and win.

Lowering wages and introducing wage caps will make it more affordable to win and increase transfer prices which might make training more rewarding.




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215754.14 in reply to 215754.1
Date: 5/6/2012 10:33:27 AM
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I‘m agree！

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215754.15 in reply to 215754.14
Date: 5/6/2012 10:56:57 AM
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I´m not sold on the "train to sell" concept. Training should also be considered in its teambuilding importance.

Buying a 19year old at some point, training them for 8-10 weeks, selling him for a medium profit, as it was in the old days, is not exactly what it´s supposed to be either.

With the new importance of "intelligent" training (keeping the wages low, yet making the player useful and maybe special) making profit is not impossible, just more challenging.

I consider "optimized" training and a better use of B-Skills and Tactics the real challenge of the economical development. Instead of just "printing" money, you have to find ways to utilize skills, player material and handle the tasks of managing the teams salaries. Any manager simulation should consist of analysis of a development and finding the correct response. BB is a dynamic simulation, not static. You have to adopt your strategies then...

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215754.16 in reply to 215754.15
Date: 5/6/2012 11:14:51 AM
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Your idea is good, the reality is brutal,most of the high grade league players constitute are optimized.when the transaction cost is too low the wage costs will increase，the present situation is that win the match with hgih salsry won't earn money even lose money.
And the funny thing is,although BB want to quickly improve the new game player strength, because the newcomers earn money hard, they will feel the player is very expensive with low prices ,then they give up the game。

Last edited by long city at 5/6/2012 11:25:32 AM

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215754.17 in reply to 215754.16
Date: 5/6/2012 11:30:47 AM
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I'm with seelenjaeger. I don't agree with the idea that training should generate a huge net profit when considering the final sale price versus trainee purchase/trainer salary. As it stands, I'd guess a well trained player gets you something close to a break even point, maybe some profit with an intelligent build, less for a primary skill pump build.

But there are still huge benefits to training, that being the savings on player salary versus effective player skills during the season that training occurs. At that point your team is getting a discount in terms of the player's performance, and you team is playing better for cheaper. That discount can get very big when you're talking about high skill trainees, as the salary increase from marginal primary skill pop gets very, very costly.


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215754.18 in reply to 215754.17
Date: 5/6/2012 11:42:21 AM
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Yes I would agree
Lost in all this is the performance delivered by the trainees in the seasons that they are being trained.
By the end of those seasons while some teams are buying players for playoffs that aren't worth what they're paying for them, the training teams have players worth much more than the salaries each week and those players continue to get better.
Besides, I don't hink I would enjoy this game as much without the Friday training pops.

From: Kukoc

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215754.19 in reply to 215754.16
Date: 5/6/2012 11:55:32 AM
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It's should not be about, training is not profitable. Like said already, training for your own team is profitable. Currently there are too many teams training → overall training value get's cheaper. It's the same with scouting. People were investing in scouting before. Now the investment are lower and you can get a decent trainee even if you draft last. Same with inside player values. There are too many teams training inside players.
If everyone will stop training this minute and go for GS, ST or FT training only, the value of training will go up really quickly. So it's about supply/demand.
I rather have bigger supply (free agents), than wait for 3 seasons before I can even think about getting anything on the TL. I remember the times, when the prices kept skyrocketing and FA's were eventually introduced. It was getting really badly out of hand.

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