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221294.9 in reply to 221294.1
Date: 7/5/2012 12:35:51 AM
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F the Astros, they always trade the good ones, next on list

Carlos Lee

f the Astros, you talk about baseball here.


F THE Astros, they lose again! Arrrrggghhh this is why I'm a Yankees fan



Speaking professionally here....

Carlos Lee has been deadweight in Houston for years. there's no sense keeping an 18mil a year salary SLugger, when you don't have anyone to get on base. When you don't have pitching to win close games. And when the guy is a horrible fielder, and should be a DH in the near future. Trading him was a great move. What wasn't so great, is having to pay part of his salary for the Marlins still.

With Lee gone, Houston can finally begin rebuilding, which they haven't been able to do, or begin. They have been in sore need of the rebuilding too ever since, Bagwell retired, biggio retired, and they traded Berkman. Berkman and Lee at same time, maybe they still could have been competitive, especially since they had a younger Hunter Pence at that time too. But there were bad decisions made in the front office. Now, the organization is trying to wipe itself clean of that bad chocies, and big salary players when they can't compete.

Honestly... They're taking a page from what the Pirates did a few years ago when they nerfed out everyone but McCutchen. It worked for Pirates... Lets see how Houston fares in a few seasons...

But thats just my humble opion as someone 10 years removed from professional baseball.

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221294.10 in reply to 221294.9
Date: 7/5/2012 1:04:56 AM
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Well, at least we got a good young developing pitcher in Dallas Keakhuel. And a good developing team in Altuve and the other guy (forgot his name, all I know is that he can hit homers) Yes, it may seam crazy, but let me try to make this make sense: They're trying like the Thunder (yes I'm comparing Baseball and Basketball) By trying to win through the draft. Hopefully in a few years they'll have a good team, maybe good enough to lure some other good players here cause of serious cash built up.

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221294.11 in reply to 221294.10
Date: 7/5/2012 11:17:44 AM
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Hey tough, I'm a pirates fan. 19 straight losing seasons is enough. I'm glad that they're finally winning.

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221294.12 in reply to 221294.11
Date: 7/5/2012 11:35:34 AM
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well, I like Pirates, give them credit, but why now Why couldn't they go off against the Reds or Brewers? Or Cards, so Houston could hopefully benefit. Astros remind me right now of the Bobcats. IDK why they traded Pence nor Berkman. Stupidity, even I'd wouldn't trade em. Front Office in Houston Baseball is whacko. Well, at least we can have the first pick again if the Cubs and Rockies win and Astros lose ;) (tear and a smile, meaning I hate we're last, but good that we got the top pick again!)

Last edited by tough at 7/5/2012 11:35:56 AM

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221294.13 in reply to 221294.12
Date: 7/5/2012 11:40:05 AM
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Another Bucco fan here! Astros needed to trade Lee to start their "rebuilding process." Lee's paycheck was too much to handle for a team that is trying to rebuild. Another thing that was a plus from the trade was that you got prospects in return... That sure as heck doesn't mean anything now as I was thinking the same thing when the Pirates dished all their decent players in years past for prospects but hey you never know, one of those guys could end up turning the team around

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221294.14 in reply to 221294.13
Date: 7/5/2012 11:44:30 AM
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like the Dallas Keuasomething dude is actually coming out nicely, punched in a more rested pitching rotation, aand hopefully focused the guys more on getting the ball in the box and hopefully the ump to call an out.

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221294.15 in reply to 221294.13
Date: 7/5/2012 11:47:05 AM
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I'm happy they are winning, but once they start winning into August and STILL have a chance at making the playoffs I will be really paying attention. After last year, they will have to prove to me that they can win into August.

From: Big Dogs

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221294.16 in reply to 221294.14
Date: 7/5/2012 1:05:54 PM
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Correa better get good fast.

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221294.17 in reply to 221294.16
Date: 7/5/2012 1:10:36 PM
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or he's dump like in 1992. Remember when we passed on Jeter in 1992? I think they were thinking about that and they don't wanna pass on another potentially "Jeter" like SS. I even heard a scout back then say to Astros, "Pick Jeter or you'll be sorry. Pick Jeter or I'll quit from yall....." He didn't get picked and he quit. 20 years later, 1 NL title and nothing else, when we could've had at least 2 world series wins already here......with Jeter............

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221294.18 in reply to 221294.17
Date: 7/5/2012 1:27:47 PM
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They probaly would not have any World series' even with Jeter still.

Astros never fared well against the Braves the entire 90s. even when they added Randy Johnson and Carlos Beltran at trade deadline... BOTH played phenomenal... they still struggled those years to get past braves.

Jeter would not have been that push that they needed.

Plus, if you want to talk about bad draft decisions in hindsight... take a look at Longoria, and How many other 3rd basemen, not just players, but 3rd basemen, were taken ahead of him.

Ian Stewart, ahead of Longoria and Linecum both...

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221294.19 in reply to 221294.12
Date: 7/5/2012 3:59:04 PM
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The pirates finally stopped trading guys. They've traded away Jason Bay, Nate McClouth, Xavier Nady, and Freddy Sanchez for prospects! Houston is going to be the next pirates. Trading away talent for prospects=19 losing seasons.

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