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Date: 12/11/2012 4:29:52 PM
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I can comment and say my opinion about that like all other managers.
And I think that would be unnecessary and bad to remove Patient.
This is where we hold them!
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Date: 12/12/2012 4:57:28 AM
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You must remember how it all happened.
Patient wasn't so popular before BB added defensive switch, enabling managers to play guards as C and have them defend their native positions...
Patient as a tactic is fine. playing slowly until you find the best match-up is fair, reasonable and realistic. But it seems that patient tactic (That was around before managers were able to make defensive switches) became ridicules since the D change.
I personally think it's a side effect no one thought of when implemented defensive switch and as such it must be fixed.
Last edited by Ehud at 12/12/2012 4:59:07 AM
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Date: 12/12/2012 5:02:00 AM
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I think the Zone - m2m disadvantage is too high. I doubt that the dogma "m2m is the best" is best for the game.
Zwei Dinge sind unendlich, die Dummheit und das All...
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Date: 12/12/2012 5:09:45 AM
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Well you now take this thread to a whole other place. I for one think that updating D in game engine should be a high priority task. Current situation were 2-3 zone doesn't work as it did in the past and "Box and one" is not really clear must change.
But as I said that's an other discussion.
As for patient. I agree with Wolph. As I said before, it's a fine tactic and shouldn't be removed but something must be done. Current situation is just managers taking advantage of a side effect created by BB.
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Date: 12/12/2012 5:18:45 AM
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I can easly agree with your opinion.
Something has to be done to solve the patient tactic problem.
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Date: 12/12/2012 5:21:16 AM
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I hope a discussion about this can lead to something good for BB.
That's why i created this thread, so that we all could say what we think about it.
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Date: 12/12/2012 5:22:52 AM
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Actually I don´t see the patient problem as big. There´s very few true upsets, even if you play a SG on the C spot. The better -team- still wins in most cases, won´t it?
Zwei Dinge sind unendlich, die Dummheit und das All...
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Date: 12/12/2012 6:58:06 AM
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"The better team"
What's that?
SG as C with Patient can change games complacently. The favorite team can and should lose games in case the other team out play them in terms of tactic - BB should make sure that it happen (Unless where's the fun..??) but patient with SG as C is just taking it to far for my opinion...
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Date: 12/12/2012 11:31:18 AM
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I really dislike and disagree with your suggestion.
Voted NO.
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